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Meathead
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 Posted - 2007/01/20 : 21:16:55
sorry 4 soundin a bit thick but jus started out n i got some cheap belt drives n i've seen all the messages ppl sayin ther crap but never really goin into 2 much detail. so could some1 jus explain y please? :)
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DarkMain
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 Posted - 2007/01/20 : 23:08:06
Basically belt drives will not spin at a constant speed. (The motor is connected to the platter via a rubber "belt").
This rubber belt will slip and expand making beat matching really quite difficult.
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Underloop
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Posted - 2007/01/21 : 10:22:28
Theres also a very low torque which makes "start up" times slow (you can hear the record winding up as you release it) so you have to give it a gentle shove.
However, I always stand by the fact that they are good to learn on because you HAVE to work hard at your mix. If you can mix on belt drives you can mix on anything. Let the flames begin! :-)
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Mortis
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Posted - 2007/01/21 : 11:05:29
I started on belt drive, they are ticky, and the transition from belt to direct is quite hard at first. Like Underpants says, they are good to learn on.
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Meathead
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Posted - 2007/01/21 : 11:42:24
^^^^lol cheers every1 ive noticed them things but never thought anythin of em n e way i got a job now so gonna get some direct drives as soon as cheers for all ur help. 
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SickPigRecords
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Posted - 2007/01/22 : 16:28:42
just replace the belts often and try and get slightly smaller belts this will give a slight increse in torque and if you make the surfaces that the belts touch rough again there will be a little more increse in performance
good luck i started on belts and it is the way i can play a whole vinyl with the power of and mix it into another just with my finger because i owned belts
keep it going
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Meathead
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Posted - 2007/01/22 : 16:43:43
^^^^cheers 4 the advice m8 but i'll probly b gettin direct drives as soon as i can afford some good uns. but i'll remember that just in case, cheers agen
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Dain-Ja
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Posted - 2007/01/22 : 18:56:00
belt drives wear out in like 4 months
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Meathead
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Posted - 2007/01/23 : 14:51:08
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Originally posted by Dain-Ja:
belt drives wear out in like 4 months
ad mine since may n still soundin allrite
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DJ-Pure
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Posted - 2007/01/25 : 21:55:02
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Originally posted by Underloop:
Theres also a very low torque which makes "start up" times slow (you can hear the record winding up as you release it) so you have to give it a gentle shove.
However, I always stand by the fact that they are good to learn on because you HAVE to work hard at your mix. If you can mix on belt drives you can mix on anything. Let the flames begin! :-)
I learnt on some Belt drives 'back in the day' and i cant mix on Vestax because the Pitch adgust is to twitchy and turbo torked lol.. anything els is a fine show from me i say. :D lol
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Posted - 2007/01/26 : 02:19:14
You're going to be well off learning to mix on belts. It teaches you to always mix on your feet. Once you get on some directs then you are going to be a very strong DJ.
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DiGiC
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Posted - 2007/01/30 : 22:59:03
Hey, I too recently bought a second hand pair of decks, kinda wishing I hadn't now cos theres all sorts of stuff I need that I was unaware of :/ Didn't really think of the issue of it being a belt drive but reading these comments have kinda given me a bit of a nervous but hopefull insight into what lyes ahead of me when I can get enough cash to really get down to bussiness :)
BTW, wheres the best place to get a Tonearm Counterweight & a 9V Mixer Power Supply?
Cheers :)
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Meathead
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Posted - 2007/01/31 : 10:51:32
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BTW, wheres the best place to get a Tonearm Counterweight & a 9V Mixer Power Supply?
erm not sure bout the power supply but u should b able 2 find a counterweight on decks.co.uk
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