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e-lucid
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 Posted - 2007/02/05 : 16:47:46
3 simple questions I've been pondering over...?
1) How do you shorten or lengthen a sample without losing pitch or clarity?
2) Do basslines generally not use chords?
3) How do I plug Reason into Cubase?
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scratch_madness
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Posted - 2007/02/05 : 17:43:13
1) I think by this you mean time stretching (to fit the sample to a different tempo) If you have cubase you should see the time stretch option if you right click on the sample, given that its audio. Timestretching will not alter the pitch of the sample, but depending on how much you time stretch it you're gonna lose some clarity.
2) Basslines are generally single notes that follow the bass note of the chord, but there's no thumb rule and experimentation is always good. I've never seen a bassline as a chord though.
2) To rewire cubase to reason (with reason being the slave) - Start up cubase and go into devices and select Reason - Highlight the channels and then start up reason. - A message will appear about midi but just click ok and hey presto.
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Posted - 2007/02/05 : 17:46:03
quote:
Originally posted by scratch_madness:
Oops clicked the quote instead of edit... long day
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Posted - 2007/02/05 : 21:57:29
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Originally posted by jowlimowli:
2 simple questions I've been pondering over...?
1) How do you shorten or lengthen a sample without losing pitch or clarity?
- hard one.. tried it.. mostly if ya try that you loose pitch nuffin can be dun.. other then addin sum silence innit
2) Do basslines generally not use chords?
- true... but ya can use a chord to make an extra deep bass in the kicks that are used in the bassline
3) How do I plug Reason into Cubase?
- instal cubase then reason then start cubase and its done.. (worked like that on fruity)
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Posted - 2007/02/06 : 01:09:49
1) Time Factory or the MPEX 2 algorithm in Nuendo 3 works ace for that. If you are using another program, there is usually an option not to change pitch. There will be some loss of clarity bedepdning on how much you change it and the quality of the recording.
2) like was already said, it follows the genral note progression, however nothing is stopping you from layering it with the leads or even another bass note to make a chord
3) rewire
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e-lucid
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Posted - 2007/02/07 : 00:37:35
Cheers for the help, having problems plugging Reason into Cubase though :( The method you descibed works although I can't get any sound and don't know Cubase very well, all that happens is that I can control the play/pause from either program and the other will mimic this, how do I get sound into a track on cubase?
*edit* SORTED! 
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2007/02/08 : 04:01:20
You need to create an audio track, then just press record and Cubase will record the audio streamed from FL (you need to make sure you have the right audio output selected though in the windows recording options, which would be 'Wave', 'Stereo Mix', 'Record Master', or the equivalent of any of those) :)
Also, bass notes should never be layered to make chords. It wouldn't sound good anyway:P
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Posted - 2007/02/10 : 04:25:17
1] I'll assume you're using Cubase since you mentioned re-wiring with it. What everyone has said about timestretching is true, but an easier way to go about it in Cubase is to use the timestretch tool. There's 2 ways to select the tool. On the tool bar, click on the selector tool and hold the mouse. You'll see a drop menu and the timestretch tool is the 2nd option (indicated by a clock icon). 2nd way is to simply press "1" twice. This will toggle through the previously mentioned drop menu.
2] Generally, no. You don't hear that much in electronic music, but you hear that occasionally on bass guitar. Do whatever your heart desires.
3] Like scratch_madness said, but you have to do things in Reason as well. It's not necessary to use the mixer, but you can if you want to. The way I've done it is to just load up instruments and patch them in the "hardware interface" manually. Create an instrument, press tab, and make sure the "cables" are patched to the right busses you activated in Cubase (if you already did that). Whenever I rewire anything, I always skip buss 1/2 just because it's the "master buss". Not a big deal if you do use it.
Hope this cleared up some things.
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Posted - 2007/02/11 : 19:40:28
Yeah it did, cheers for your help every1!
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Posted - 2007/02/19 : 11:09:34
1.well, im certain that acid pro actually lets you shorten/lengthen a sample without losing pitch and time, quite nyce ;)
2. bassline generally dont really, most of the pads etc have that covered, and it might not make it sound good with just bass, im not really sure, try it out...
i cant really answer the other question though..
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Posted - 2007/02/20 : 00:02:30
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Originally posted by DJ_Noize:
1.well, im certain that acid pro actually lets you shorten/lengthen a sample without losing pitch and time, quite nyce ;)
It does so absolutely terribly though. The audio quality seriously goes down (though if youre stetching a sample back to its original tempo, its allright, and even if youre not, adding some reverb helps mask it)
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Posted - 2007/02/22 : 03:50:50
yeah i thought there was somehing up with that ;)
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e-lucid
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Posted - 2007/02/23 : 16:04:24
Cubase seems to do a good job with timestretching
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Posted - 2007/02/24 : 04:20:20
dunno, havent tried cubase... its completely blank to me, its just too complicated to me, well, then again, i only looked at it for about 5 minutes. =P
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