Mansy Senior Member
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Posted - 2014/02/02 : 20:19:21
These albums will come to an end after the 10th instalment, i carnt see aatw taking on another 5 albums after this one. Its best to let breeze go for his drum & bass dream!
latininxtc Advanced Member
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Posted - 2014/02/02 : 21:03:16
quote:Originally posted by Mansy:
These albums will come to an end after the 10th instalment, i carnt see aatw taking on another 5 albums after this one. Its best to let breeze go for his drum & bass dream!
Well, if I remember correctly they get signed on for 10 at a time, or perhaps it is 5 at a time. Either way I see the 10th one as being the last one as well, unless they want to keep it going but make some drastic changes to it.
Also, I'm no expert on D&B I'll admit, but a lot of what he played in his preview is severely similar to Hardcore breaks/dnb that's been featured at HU for quite awhile now. Have vocals in DnB tracks become popular, because I've always known them to uninterested by the DnB crowd.
Elliott Advanced Member
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Posted - 2014/02/03 : 02:24:28
quote:Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:Originally posted by Mansy:
These albums will come to an end after the 10th instalment, i carnt see aatw taking on another 5 albums after this one. Its best to let breeze go for his drum & bass dream!
Well, if I remember correctly they get signed on for 10 at a time, or perhaps it is 5 at a time. Either way I see the 10th one as being the last one as well, unless they want to keep it going but make some drastic changes to it.
Also, I'm no expert on D&B I'll admit, but a lot of what he played in his preview is severely similar to Hardcore breaks/dnb that's been featured at HU for quite awhile now. Have vocals in DnB tracks become popular, because I've always known them to uninterested by the DnB crowd.
To be honest, middle-of-the-road D&B has become somewhat more vocal-ly, even in the 6 or 7 years I've been listening, and mainstream liquid has always been like that. Anyone who goes to Hospital or RAM nights on a regular basis will be very comfortable with vocals in D&B tunes so there's certainly a market for it in that crowd (i.e. a large portion of casual fans).
I've expressed this opinion before but, to me, hardcore breaks is just a pseudonym for D&B which is used purely to market it to a different audience with lower expectations for their breakbeats (i.e. hardcore fans). I'm not saying everything that's produced under the guise of "hardcore breaks" couldn't hold its own in the D&B market (I've heard plenty of tracks that I reckon would) but it's certainly easier to sidestep the whole issue of competing with that market.
Edit: Technically it's still an opinion but I'd assert it as, more or less, the truth. I could suggest a very similar D&B tune, artist or label for pretty much every "hardcore breaks" track I've ever heard.
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Mickey Init Advanced Member
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Posted - 2014/02/04 : 17:55:40
quote:Originally posted by Elliott:
I could suggest a very similar D&B tune, artist or label for pretty much every "hardcore breaks" track I've ever heard.
Challenge accepted! Ha!
DJs United - "Bass Come Down"
I can see where you're coming from when we talk about Breeze, FW and CLXH9 but, for me, I think I can pigeonhole all the tunes I own (singles & albums) into (1) Hardcore Breaks and (2) D&B. I wouldn't even say HB is a sub-genre of D&B, more so, it's a sub-genre of Hardcore.
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Karthy Senior Member
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Posted - 2014/02/07 : 03:35:52
While yes CXH has been going down hill for a while, I can't see it being very good for the scene to just end. I know a fair few people who just listen to the CXH stuff and don't go any deeper into the scene.
I do agree though, personally I've not been excited for a CXH in a long time, wouldn't bother me for it to disappear, if something betters potentially going to come out of it. Without Breeze hopefully...
Elliott Advanced Member
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Posted - 2014/02/09 : 18:17:52
quote:Originally posted by Mickey Init:
quote:Originally posted by Elliott:
I could suggest a very similar D&B tune, artist or label for pretty much every "hardcore breaks" track I've ever heard.
Challenge accepted! Ha!
DJs United - "Bass Come Down"
I can see where you're coming from when we talk about Breeze, FW and CLXH9 but, for me, I think I can pigeonhole all the tunes I own (singles & albums) into (1) Hardcore Breaks and (2) D&B. I wouldn't even say HB is a sub-genre of D&B, more so, it's a sub-genre of Hardcore.
You've got me there but I'm not sure it's a fair challenge. It doesn't help to prove the existence of a distinct "breakbeat hardcore" genre because it sounds exactly like an old skool tune, not a new genre.
I don't know! If you can tell the difference then fair enough. It's just my opinion. :)
Edit: Actually, to some extent, breakbeat hardcore would be more legitimate (in my opinion) if *all* the tracks sounded like this. The description of the genre would be "old skool with modern production values" -- although I think that's what rave breaks was already trying to be.
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Dys7 Advanced Member
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Posted - 2014/02/09 : 18:41:17
quote:Originally posted by Elliott:
It doesn't help to prove the existence of a distinct "breakbeat hardcore" genre because it sounds exactly like an old skool tune, not a new genre.
Edit: I wouldn't even call that bass come down link bbhc, just old school.
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Mickey Init Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2014/02/13 : 17:41:54
quote:Originally posted by Dys7:
Edit: I wouldn't even call that bass come down link bbhc, just old school.
Why not? 'Old Skool' tunes weren't called 'Old Skool' when they were current! That "Bass Come Down" was released as 'Back 2 The Old Skool Mix' but it would fit into a breakbeat genre.
quote:Originally posted by Elliott:
If you can tell the difference then fair enough. It's just my opinion. :)
I know mate and it's good that you put them forward for discussion on here. As I said before, I agree with you when we talk about Breeze and CLXH9 but when considering material by CLSM, Gavin G, Entity and the like, my opinion is different.
I wouldn't say I can tell the difference any more than the next man but I think there are tunes that are undeniably BBH.
One tune I listened to t'other day was "What A Rush" by Inspector Sands on HU6 (CD3), and that probs would be a better example of something that's more clear cut. In fact most tunes on that HU6 CD would be good examples of BBH.
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