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wong
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Posted - 2014/01/26 :  13:31:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit wong's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by CDJay:
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Originally posted by wong:
id say bananamans return has been a big flop tbh



https://soundcloud.com/hardcoreunderground/bananaman-gisbo-feat-nia-cant

CDJay



decent track but like hard2get said, all i hear is gisbo. don't mean to sound like a c*nt, just being honest


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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2014/01/26 :  15:14:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Dopeman's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Connormgs:
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Originally posted by CDJay:
[quote]Originally posted by wong:
id say bananamans return has been a big flop tbh



https://soundcloud.com/hardcoreunderground/bananaman-gisbo-feat-nia-cant

CDJay



This aint hardcore ffs it's bloody popcore how many "UK Hardcore" producers have made tracks that sound almost identical to this

and seriously where the **** have the hard kicks gone??? seriously i've never listened to so many "UK Hardcore" tracks with absolutely pitiful kickdrums over the last few years it's disgraceful imo and the so-called "Top-Tier" really need to take a step back and let some new blood come through and not just the ones they choose coz 9/10 times all they've done is copy one of the "Bigboys"


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Black Fox Sinner
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Posted - 2014/01/28 :  19:31:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Black Fox Sinner's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by wong:
id say bananamans return has been a big flop tbh



I don't think it was an entire flop. His productions gradually got a bit better before the end of the year. His return definitely did not live up to the ridiculous hype that people on here gave him. He's been gone for over a decade I don't know how ppl thought he was gonna come out full-blast with some incredibly mind-blowing tune.



A lot of younger ones or those new to the scene might not know his tunes well enough to appreciate his return. I loved his happy hardcore, but to be honest I wasn't expecting any major new tunes all of a sudden, or a bunch of 96/97 style tracks. I personally would welcome a full time return to that style but I'm sure many wouldn't.
I think Vinylgroover announcing he was thinking of doing a hardcore track or two generated more hype.


along with all these comebacks what happened to dune?



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Entity
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Posted - 2014/01/28 :  23:05:44  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Entity's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Black Fox Sinner:
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by wong:
id say bananamans return has been a big flop tbh



I don't think it was an entire flop. His productions gradually got a bit better before the end of the year. His return definitely did not live up to the ridiculous hype that people on here gave him. He's been gone for over a decade I don't know how ppl thought he was gonna come out full-blast with some incredibly mind-blowing tune.



A lot of younger ones or those new to the scene might not know his tunes well enough to appreciate his return. I loved his happy hardcore, but to be honest I wasn't expecting any major new tunes all of a sudden, or a bunch of 96/97 style tracks. I personally would welcome a full time return to that style but I'm sure many wouldn't.
I think Vinylgroover announcing he was thinking of doing a hardcore track or two generated more hype.


along with all these comebacks what happened to dune?





Dune is long-gone by the looks of things. DJ Raw (as he's known) plays the odd event in Holland (and/or Germany?) as "Dune" and doesn't even mix - just plays one track after another. I would LOVE for Dune to return, but really can't see that happening :(

*edit*. If I'm wrong and there's a Dune PA / proper DJ set coming up at any point, then I shall be in attendance - don't care where it is :)


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Edited by - Entity on 2014/01/28 23:07:29
Smoogie
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Posted - 2014/01/28 :  23:10:13  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by The Dopeman:
This aint hardcore ffs it's bloody popcore how many "UK Hardcore" producers have made tracks that sound almost identical to this

and seriously where the **** have the hard kicks gone??? seriously i've never listened to so many "UK Hardcore" tracks with absolutely pitiful kickdrums over the last few years it's disgraceful imo and the so-called "Top-Tier" really need to take a step back and let some new blood come through and not just the ones they choose coz 9/10 times all they've done is copy one of the "Bigboys"



I have made a few tunes with hard kicks myself, it is just amateur producing but if I can throw in a few hard kicks that snub the majority of crap that has been out then that can't be a bad thing


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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2014/01/28 :  23:42:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The Dopeman's homepage  Reply with quote
you got them up on sc or yt would like to hear them my main "problem" with ukhc is it's just not hard and there really doesn't seem to be too much difference between a lot of tracks these days they all seem to follow the same pattern more or less i've noticed it with gabber aswell and imho producers need to go back to the old skool style where pretty much every track had something different to offer sure a lot of them may have used simaler samples etc but they did something different now all i hear is the same old shit time after time the same melodies, buildups, breakdowns, drops, basslines bl di bla di ***** bla in hardcore terms i would say the uk is a joke because the majority of the tracks just aint that hard

my opinion if anyone would like to tell me i'm wrong feel free but deep down you know i have made a very valid point


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Smoogie
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Posted - 2014/01/29 :  00:28:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Smoogie's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by The Dopeman:
you got them up on sc or yt would like to hear them my main "problem" with ukhc is it's just not hard and there really doesn't seem to be too much difference between a lot of tracks these days they all seem to follow the same pattern more or less i've noticed it with gabber aswell and imho producers need to go back to the old skool style where pretty much every track had something different to offer sure a lot of them may have used simaler samples etc but they did something different now all i hear is the same old shit time after time the same melodies, buildups, breakdowns, drops, basslines bl di bla di ***** bla in hardcore terms i would say the uk is a joke because the majority of the tracks just aint that hard

my opinion if anyone would like to tell me i'm wrong feel free but deep down you know i have made a very valid point



I have been saying the same for years


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Rodz90
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Posted - 2014/01/29 :  08:50:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Rodz90's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by The Dopeman:
you got them up on sc or yt would like to hear them.

My main "problem" with ukhc is it's just not hard and there really doesn't seem to be too much difference between a lot of tracks these days they all seem to follow the same pattern more or less, i've noticed it with gabber swell. Producers need to go back to the old skool style where pretty much every track had something different to offer, sure a lot of them may have used simaler samples etc but they did something different. Now all i hear is the same old shit time after time the same melodies, buildups, breakdowns, drops, basslines bl di bla di ***** bla. In hardcore terms i would say the uk is a joke because the majority of the tracks just aint that hard

my opinion if anyone would like to tell me i'm wrong feel free but deep down you know i have made a very valid point



You have a valid point, i struggled to read it, please look at your newly punctuated quote and you'll agree it's more readable.


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djyogi
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Posted - 2014/02/01 :  03:23:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djyogi's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
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Originally posted by wong:
id say bananamans return has been a big flop tbh



https://soundcloud.com/hardcoreunderground/bananaman-gisbo-feat-nia-cant

CDJay



This track is absolutely banging atm by Bananaman and Gisbo -
https://soundcloud.com/bananamanandgisbo/bananaman-gisbo-corruption

Definitely appreciating the older sound they are trying to bring in.


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djyogi
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I think overall Joey and Kurt reviving the rave scene with a fresh new approach through Power Stomp is very significant for the scene and ensures it has a survival. As such the future looks promising to some extent although on an International standard the rave scene has gone to shit with the Australian scene dying up the ass as well as a few other countries - Canada etc... which had larger crowds in the past.

RIP good ol days...


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Posted - 2014/02/01 :  04:13:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit lurker's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Elliott:
To me, if you accept a bunch of money with the implicit expectation that you're gonna do a bunch of fancy tricks and then you turn up and do exactly that, you're the definition of someone being "technical for the sake of being technical". Well, arguably, that's actually being technical for the sake of getting paid but, since in Gammer's case technical = getting paid, it's the same proposition.

This is ****ing hilarious. Oh no, he did exactly what people expected him to do and got paid for it! He must be less of a human being! It's not like he could actually enjoy doing that or anything.

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Originally posted by Samination:
Uhm... other than everyone hating everyone else? :P


I haven't been to any raves or anything but I'm certain this sums it up.


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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/02/01 :  08:32:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by djyogi:
with the Australian scene dying up the ass as well as a few other countries - Canada etc... which had larger crowds in the past.

RIP good ol days...



Well I can't speak for Australia but as far as Canada goes it's alive and well. Certainly doesn't have the int'l exposure as it did when Hullabaloo was around, but still the scene is lively. Plenty of UK Hardcore DJs old and new are still in the scene. Some of the Canadian DJs have played at HTID ITS.


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Posted - 2014/02/01 :  14:42:17  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elipton's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by djyogi:
with the Australian scene dying up the ass as well as a few other countries - Canada etc... which had larger crowds in the past.

RIP good ol days...



Well I can't speak for Australia but as far as Canada goes it's alive and well. Certainly doesn't have the int'l exposure as it did when Hullabaloo was around, but still the scene is lively. Plenty of UK Hardcore DJs old and new are still in the scene. Some of the Canadian DJs have played at HTID ITS.



I met DJ Virus from Canada last night and had a good ol' chat about the scene over there. It sounds pretty amazing!


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Originally posted by Elipton:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by djyogi:
with the Australian scene dying up the ass as well as a few other countries - Canada etc... which had larger crowds in the past.

RIP good ol days...



Well I can't speak for Australia but as far as Canada goes it's alive and well. Certainly doesn't have the int'l exposure as it did when Hullabaloo was around, but still the scene is lively. Plenty of UK Hardcore DJs old and new are still in the scene. Some of the Canadian DJs have played at HTID ITS.



I met DJ Virus from Canada last night and had a good ol' chat about the scene over there. It sounds pretty amazing!



Ooh nice man! He's a real good guy been an active dj in Canada for over a decade. Judging from his fb it looks like he's having a real good time there in the UK


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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by Elipton:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by djyogi:
with the Australian scene dying up the ass as well as a few other countries - Canada etc... which had larger crowds in the past.

RIP good ol days...



Well I can't speak for Australia but as far as Canada goes it's alive and well. Certainly doesn't have the int'l exposure as it did when Hullabaloo was around, but still the scene is lively. Plenty of UK Hardcore DJs old and new are still in the scene. Some of the Canadian DJs have played at HTID ITS.



I met DJ Virus from Canada last night and had a good ol' chat about the scene over there. It sounds pretty amazing!



Ooh nice man! He's a real good guy been an active dj in Canada for over a decade. Judging from his fb it looks like he's having a real good time there in the UK



He it sounded as though he and his partner were loving it. I suggested ILHB2 be on their calendar :)


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