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DjZelous
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 02:37:31
Hello, Some of you already know where i live(Miami if you didnt know) And i want to start up my own FM Station here playing all kinds of electronic music(Especially Hardcore =D) And i wanted to ask for tips and stuff needed to do to get this off the ground, i know its quite expensive to do this but i would really love this to happen.
-Izzy
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 02:55:46
on FM radio??? good luck with that. It is expensive beyond an average person's comprehension. Also it might not even be worth the trouble considering that ppl don't go out of there way to listen to the radio beyond commuting time. You're far better off doing an online radio station that involves the local djs in Miami.
There is another option to do this and have it broadcast on FM, or AM, radio, and that's maybe starting a radio show on a University's radio station. I think that might require you to actually go to the school that owns the radio station though.
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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 06:38:03
Online radio is quicker, easier and less cost effective than FM and will probably bring u a larger audience! Getting an FM licence is very expensive
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 08:04:46
I used to host a show on Preston FM over here (local community radio station), which was always relying on donations, grants, volunteers, etc etc to keep costs down and was still often threatened with closure.
Even pirate radio is way more hassle then it is worth.
As has been said, stick to online radio. Folk would still be able to hear you around the world.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 08:44:25
There was a good answer on yahoo questions about this which I shall copy and paste but cannot vouch for it's validity!
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"You need to hire a consultant and lawyer, and eventually an enginneer.
You need to get a broadcasting license, STL license, tower permits, and such, from the FCC.
You obtain a transmitter site (you can contract that, by sharing an existing tower). You obtain studios.
You obtain equipment for both, from broadcast equipment suppliers, or from radio stations who are upgrading their gear.
The Engineer will but together the transmitter, studio, and link between the two.
Now, you should realize, if you don't already, FM doesnt broadcast very far, especially at the lower power you likely will have to be license for. You will serve your local community fine, you won't serve the USA with your broadcast.
A 50,000 watt station is something you would'n be asking here about, if you had the financial and business wherewithall to do that, and 50,000 watts only go 75 miles or so. "
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I don't know how much that helps, but it looks useful,
I would say the first step is to find out your state laws and taxes govening the frequencys and how much it will be to get that very first broadcasting license.
I suppose an important thing you need to consider is how far you want your station to reach in distance, and what the capture of people who will be listening will actually be.
If all else fails, a better option might be looking into get a *digital* (not internet) radio channel like the XM stuff? or if eeeeverything falls through you could put all that money into advertising and marketing locally for your new internet station (which you could give a local name?).
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 10:37:18
Surprised anyone that listens to electronic music anymore listens to FM radio anymore. Online radio on the other hand!
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 11:18:16
I get the impression Zelous is thinking of doing this with a view of getting more listeners in the states tuned to dance music.
Took 'em over 20 years to catch up with the rest of the world listening to dance music so my guess is people over there people still listen to FM radio too ;)
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 14:30:43
quote: Originally posted by Triquatra:
I get the impression Zelous is thinking of doing this with a view of getting more listeners in the states tuned to dance music.
Took 'em over 20 years to catch up with the rest of the world listening to dance music so my guess is people over there people still listen to FM radio too ;)
Well in Houston we actually did have a radio station that played electronic music, but it was mostly dancy stuff you would hear at the clubs. This was around late 90s, early 2000s stuff. I liked the station a lot, but quickly grew tired of it because there wasn't much variety. KHYS 98.5 I think was the name of the station.
I don't think it lasted longer than 2yrs, or even 1 year, because it totally changed into some hip hop shit.
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Kebab Head
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 14:41:26
I never ever listen to FM radio anymore and don't think I have for about 8 years!
Only time I hear the radio is if I walk in a shop
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Elipton
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 15:58:28
quote: Originally posted by Kebab Head:
I never ever listen to FM radio anymore and don't think I have for about 8 years!
Only time I hear the radio is if I walk in a shop
In the UK, getting a licence is the hardest part as different areas only have some licences available because other FM stations cater for certain demographics.
Pirate stations are listened to. A station in Southend, Funky FM, plays lots of styles of electro and generally has a good listening. Online radio is all very well, but people like to listen to something else on the go. All radio's in cars have FM/AM radio, and I think that's why it can be such a viable way of being heard - albeit illegally transmitted.
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djchexmixer
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 17:23:48
Another possible option is your local university. The universities I attended both had FM stations run by the university / students / volunteers.
Some of the radio disc jockeys weren't students or staff, they were volunteers who went through the proper channels to get a show on the station. One of the shows was a Hardcore show, but the person who did the show is long gone.
Looks like the University of Miami has a station: http://wvum.org/ This might be a good place to start, get a feel for what it takes... maybe you can get yourself a show on there as well. And if you want to go the online station route as some people suggested, PM me. I spin live on http://ukast-fm.com/. Good luck, let me know how it all turns out.
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DjZelous
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 22:10:18
Well, I first want to start out with a low power fm station(under 100 watts) and see if I can get a kind of audience. I have tried to make an online station but it never really took off. (Sorry if text look weird I'm on my phone)
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DJ SCOTT DEVOTION
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Posted - 2014/03/06 : 23:55:21
quote: Originally posted by Elipton:
quote: Originally posted by Kebab Head:
I never ever listen to FM radio anymore and don't think I have for about 8 years!
Only time I hear the radio is if I walk in a shop
In the UK, getting a licence is the hardest part as different areas only have some licences available because other FM stations cater for certain demographics.
Pirate stations are listened to. A station in Southend, Funky FM, plays lots of styles of electro and generally has a good listening. Online radio is all very well, but people like to listen to something else on the go. All radio's in cars have FM/AM radio, and I think that's why it can be such a viable way of being heard - albeit illegally transmitted.
Yeah funky fm is going legal, I played on funky as a pirate a few times years ago. Southend on sea was a hotbed for pirate radio. I played on premier fm for a few years and other southend pirates such as renegade fm, eruption fm, inner mind fm, Pirate radio far out numbers internet radio, alot of hardcore internet radio stations your lucky to get 200 people locked in. When I played on pirate radio it was so busy you could not keep up with calls and texts, so many people tuned in, you go in to shops and people would have it one. Look at kool FM its still a busy station, horizon fm is making a comeback too that started in 1980s and played through the rave scene.
If you need information I know a bit about it but have friends whom ran stations form late 80s through the 90s and still now. In the UK pirate radio is a harsh enviroment, with rig theives and such scum bags running dodgy stations, but there are good ones and some good ones coming soon out of Essex. There is a lot of hard work putting rigs back up after your taken off by OFCOM or other stations, you might encounter that, I dont no what it is like in your land. Good luck with it and the people whom do run pirate radios are due a lot of respect, its been the piller of the rave scene here in the uk when things really kicked off in early 90s and as I said before it passed on some great talent and gave expsoure.
Give me a shout I can hook you up with some real uk top players in the pirate scene whom are legends of the radio world, we all started on pirate radio, myself, paul stoned off here, uplift, gaz(fracus) with DFM, uplift with the great london station addiction fm, sy kick, bradley carter, swift and zinc, kevin energy, the list goes on. FM radio was the hub for rave music back in the day and it still works now, alot of stations out of london doing very well, just none play hardcore much, unless it is old skool.
As my old partner in crime DJ stoned whom comes on here , well dont anymore said, its a special feeling playing live on FM, my best days in music were had playing on radio and then playing at radio events etc, not playing at raves and making music that was 2nd. Saying that this wa sin the 90s and to mid 2000's when hardcore was played all over the dial, now peole are just embaressed to have hardcore on the stations (the modern stuff).
Elipton - Are you form southend area, seeing as you no funky fm? :)
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DjZelous
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Posted - 2014/03/07 : 01:59:20
It seems that in the UK, the radio police are quite slack, here the fcc would raid your ass in a few days (so I've heard)
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Elipton
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Posted - 2014/03/07 : 02:15:18
In the UK, I believe it's quite difficult to get sufficient proof that a flat (often high-rise apartments broadcast) is transmitting the waves, so it's hard to get a warrant to search.
And Scott, yeah I'm living away at University at the moment, but when I'm back down working seasonally on the seafront I'm often tuned in :). The guys running it are good lads from what I've heard of it. Interesting you worked with them!
I've not seen them officially broadcast themselves as an FM radio. Their site only displays Online radio service (which is no wonder) so it's good that they're going legit. But getting a license to host an official radio frequency is extremely difficult. I worked - in part - for the company behind Sthend Radio and that's a pretty expensive operation - and they were only allowed to buy a license for Popular music age 35+ I believe.
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