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Is hardcore the uncoolest it has ever been?

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trippnface
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
A bit disappointed I didn't make that trip. Hopefully next year I'll have my finances in order to do some real traveling again.



it was really great and every other set was seriously bangin; they brought the real hardcore no doubt; sound was good; presentation was on point. it really set the standard for the future i think. they did very well; hopefully HTID will be bringing more good stuff and lots of it :D. = success. def hope to see more of the crew out next time


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Edited by - trippnface on 2014/11/03 00:31:32
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They need to bring Al Storm and Marc Smith next time. And probably some more hardcore acts I thought the hard dance and hard style acts were one too many.



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Posted - 2014/11/03 :  02:09:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit trippnface's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
They need to bring Al Storm and Marc Smith next time. And probably some more hardcore acts I thought the hard dance and hard style acts were one too many.



. oh man. agreed. if storm doesn't get out there soon it won't be good >:| technikore too ;)

yes on more hardcore too. the hard dance stage was just meh. i mean obviously not my thing but it was lacking. pretty sure the hardcore did well enough they could drop the hard dance and book uk/happy/breakbeat ; the venue was not big enough; shit was packed.


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Posted - 2014/11/03 :  04:21:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djchexmixer's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by trippnface:
quote:
Originally posted by latininxtc:
They need to bring Al Storm and Marc Smith next time. And probably some more hardcore acts I thought the hard dance and hard style acts were one too many.



. oh man. agreed. if storm doesn't get out there soon it won't be good >:| technikore too ;)

yes on more hardcore too. the hard dance stage was just meh. i mean obviously not my thing but it was lacking. pretty sure the hardcore did well enough they could drop the hard dance and book uk/happy/breakbeat ; the venue was not big enough; shit was packed.




The hard dance area was perfect to get a drink, the bar there was much much much less crowded. Shit was packed indeed!



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Posted - 2014/11/03 :  09:29:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by trippnface:
at HTID LA fracus & darwin dropping breakbeat had the place going infinitely harder than Nobody doing some weird electroy- powerstomp set ; and gammers typical melting pot of whatever he feels like ;)



That's yet another problem, of recent times. They can't really do that in the UK, as they once did, as it gets called "dubcore". I'd go as far as to say that the whole "dubcore" thing set back breakbeat hardcore, and general variety in the genre, a few years at least.

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Posted - 2014/11/03 :  17:02:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit trippnface's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by CDJay:
quote:
Originally posted by trippnface:
at HTID LA fracus & darwin dropping breakbeat had the place going infinitely harder than Nobody doing some weird electroy- powerstomp set ; and gammers typical melting pot of whatever he feels like ;)



That's yet another problem, of recent times. They can't really do that in the UK, as they once did, as it gets called "dubcore". I'd go as far as to say that the whole "dubcore" thing set back breakbeat hardcore, and general variety in the genre, a few years at least.

CDJay



ridiculous >.> interesting how the difference in interpretation of sound based on location or the type of people in that specific scene at that point really makes it hard to say 1 thing works for all. nobody i know would refer to breakbeat as dubcore; i can't think of one person i know that likes hardcore that does not absolutely love breakbeat. like butter and toast. disc 3 of HU6 was the favorite for tons of people! you can perceive the flow of the music; it just works. the euphoric crossover/even female vocals/speed/ make for a synergistic experience. the same cannot be said for dubcore. as much as that is my opinion; dubcore sounds forced and most people agree. i am not big on freeform at all ; can't really stand it; but i understand how it is a viable evolution of hardcore

breakbeat is an integral part of hardcore history and it is clearly for a reason; they feel each other ;) cross the line had people going off like wild animals haha. dubcore does not make that fkn happen; end of story! nobody goes " aw man why did that dnb come in" but people definitely go " god damnit heres that electro dubstep sound >.>" speaking of all this; i was searching old topics and came across one about DNA and one of his final sets at slammin vinyl in which he throws down a breakbeat hardcore set; which i guess was not received too well. i think it is banging. will admit; it does become a pretty much full on dnb mix lol. that is why i love HU/ entity/ F&D/clsm/etc they really perfected the current hardcore/breakbeat sound and it damn well deserves to be there!

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Thanx for that link, Trippnface. never had the chance to hear that set till now. I remember talk about all the mc's going wild for the mic. I'm only half way through the set, but this is ridiculous!

lol at the part when mc storm calls DNA a twat for coming in a the wrong speed! wonder if that sparked any feuds!


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Posted - 2014/11/03 :  19:29:54  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by trippnface:
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
quote:
Originally posted by trippnface:
at HTID LA fracus & darwin dropping breakbeat had the place going infinitely harder than Nobody doing some weird electroy- powerstomp set ; and gammers typical melting pot of whatever he feels like ;)



That's yet another problem, of recent times. They can't really do that in the UK, as they once did, as it gets called "dubcore". I'd go as far as to say that the whole "dubcore" thing set back breakbeat hardcore, and general variety in the genre, a few years at least.

CDJay



ridiculous >.> interesting how the difference in interpretation of sound based on location or the type of people in that specific scene at that point really makes it hard to say 1 thing works for all. nobody i know would refer to breakbeat as dubcore; i can't think of one person i know that likes hardcore that does not absolutely love breakbeat. like butter and toast. disc 3 of HU6 was the favorite for tons of people! you can perceive the flow of the music; it just works. the euphoric crossover/even female vocals/speed/ make for a synergistic experience. the same cannot be said for dubcore. as much as that is my opinion; dubcore sounds forced and most people agree. i am not big on freeform at all ; can't really stand it; but i understand how it is a viable evolution of hardcore

breakbeat is an integral part of hardcore history and it is clearly for a reason; they feel each other ;) cross the line had people going off like wild animals haha. dubcore does not make that fkn happen; end of story! nobody goes " aw man why did that dnb come in" but people definitely go " god damnit heres that electro dubstep sound >.>" speaking of all this; i was searching old topics and came across one about DNA and one of his final sets at slammin vinyl in which he throws down a breakbeat hardcore set; which i guess was not received too well. i think it is banging. will admit; it does become a pretty much full on dnb mix lol. that is why i love HU/ entity/ F&D/clsm/etc they really perfected the current hardcore/breakbeat sound and it damn well deserves to be there!

https://soundcloud.com/number2301/dj-dna-lost-tracks-slammin




You cant have met many people if you say you don't know anyone who likes Hardcore that doesnt likes Breakbeat.


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I really don't understand how anybody with working ears can confuse BBHC with so called 'dubcore'.

The general raving public are so ignorant it's unreal


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Posted - 2014/11/03 :  20:53:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit trippnface's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by trippnface:
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Originally posted by CDJay:
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Originally posted by trippnface:
at HTID LA fracus & darwin dropping breakbeat had the place going infinitely harder than Nobody doing some weird electroy- powerstomp set ; and gammers typical melting pot of whatever he feels like ;)



That's yet another problem, of recent times. They can't really do that in the UK, as they once did, as it gets called "dubcore". I'd go as far as to say that the whole "dubcore" thing set back breakbeat hardcore, and general variety in the genre, a few years at least.

CDJay



ridiculous >.> interesting how the difference in interpretation of sound based on location or the type of people in that specific scene at that point really makes it hard to say 1 thing works for all. nobody i know would refer to breakbeat as dubcore; i can't think of one person i know that likes hardcore that does not absolutely love breakbeat. like butter and toast. disc 3 of HU6 was the favorite for tons of people! you can perceive the flow of the music; it just works. the euphoric crossover/even female vocals/speed/ make for a synergistic experience. the same cannot be said for dubcore. as much as that is my opinion; dubcore sounds forced and most people agree. i am not big on freeform at all ; can't really stand it; but i understand how it is a viable evolution of hardcore

breakbeat is an integral part of hardcore history and it is clearly for a reason; they feel each other ;) cross the line had people going off like wild animals haha. dubcore does not make that fkn happen; end of story! nobody goes " aw man why did that dnb come in" but people definitely go " god damnit heres that electro dubstep sound >.>" speaking of all this; i was searching old topics and came across one about DNA and one of his final sets at slammin vinyl in which he throws down a breakbeat hardcore set; which i guess was not received too well. i think it is banging. will admit; it does become a pretty much full on dnb mix lol. that is why i love HU/ entity/ F&D/clsm/etc they really perfected the current hardcore/breakbeat sound and it damn well deserves to be there!

https://soundcloud.com/number2301/dj-dna-lost-tracks-slammin




You cant have met many people if you say you don't know anyone who likes Hardcore that doesnt likes Breakbeat.



atleast in the amount of time i have been raving the majority of people i come across dig it.especially if it is vs dub/electrocore. im not gunna speak for everyone; i obviously enjoy it :p. i know people who won't touch uk hardcore but will get down to a breakbeat hardcore track; it is a great bridge gap. maybe i just dont pay attention to the people who dont like it haha; but i have honestly not heard complaints while raving. i know some people here are not as fond; it baffles me. just differences i guess.


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I've been a fan of hardcore for 11 years now and I think it is bigger in the states then it ever was before.

Then again it was hard for me to meet people in the states who liked it when I was 12 years old. Hardcore is not uncool, people who hate on hardcore are uncool.


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Posted - 2014/11/03 :  20:54:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit trippnface's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
Thanx for that link, Trippnface. never had the chance to hear that set till now. I remember talk about all the mc's going wild for the mic. I'm only half way through the set, but this is ridiculous!

lol at the part when mc storm calls DNA a twat for coming in a the wrong speed! wonder if that sparked any feuds!



lol! right xp . scratching is on point here too. always loved me some dnb...


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Originally posted by djDMS:
I really don't understand how anybody with working ears can confuse BBHC with so called 'dubcore'.

The general raving public are so ignorant it's unreal


Yeah, it's absurd, isn't it?

I never liked the name "dubcore" when "electrocore" was much more fitting. The only track I can think of off the top of my head that had obvious dubstep influences is Screwface.


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Edited by - Elliott on 2014/11/04 01:03:34
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quote:
Originally posted by Elliott:

Yeah, it's absurd, isn't it?

I never liked the name "dubcore" when "electrocore" was much more fitting. The only track I can think of off the top of my head that had obvious dubstep influences is Screwface.



and even then screwface sounds more like jump up dnb. a lot of Pinnacles stuff does employ a lot of those Massive-made wobble bass synths in his tracks, so i guess dubcore does apply in that case but i have never thought of ever calling screwface dubcore.


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I personally think hardcore these days is really good, i mean i started listening 2 years ago but i think hardcore is awesome these days UK Hardcore all the way! :)

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