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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2014/12/23 : 13:44:57
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote: Originally posted by The Dopeman:
quote: Originally posted by trippnface:
quote: Originally posted by Elliott:
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quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
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He's the biggest name in hardcore and is starting to make waves in other genres too, potentially bringing people from other scenes into ours so there's no reason at all that he shouldn't be making the big money. And like others said, 12k isn't really that much (especially as its actually only about 7500GBP)
he may be "the biggest name" but he most certainly is not the best ever since he got "famous" with all his poofy singing ******** (don't deny it the guy sings like a ****in bender) and ever since he got hardcore noticed by more people the music started to change into the ******** we hear today so i think the little prick has a lot to answer for imho
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What exactly does he have to answer for?
well after he got "famous" the music started to change and became more geared to "pop culture" etc the all the dubstep/electro crap came in and was the "new fresh sound" which is just complete crap
why do i say this well not one of my friends like hardcore i'm the black sheep they all like pop/rap/house etc but the love DS's hardcore tracks...BUT i let them hear a bit of scott brown, kevin energy etc and they're like "ooooh that's shit" and i tell them that's the genre DS makes and they don't belive me thy're like he does clubland etc he's definitely a major part of everything that's wrong with "UK" hardcore these days
Yep! I haven't enjoyed his music for a long time. Plus he's a fairly shit DJ. Definitely not worth $12k, if it's even close to true. (market forces blah blah, people are idiots)
I also don't understand why it's supposed to be such a good thing that DS is out there "representing hardcore". He's representing a sound that I don't want to become popular. Yay, he's introducing a shitty, watered down sound to the masses! Masses that still won't enjoy real hardcore. That's so good for us!
agreed !
i don't even consider DS to be a hardcore producer it all sounds like sped up dance to me hardcore (in the uk at least) hasn't really existed since 1998 the year bouncy techno ceased to exist)
put it this way if the kick is meant to be the driving force of a hardcore track then why do the "big names" use such weak ass kicks in all their tracks i really feel like making a comparison video to show just how weak hardcore has become since it's so called rebirth plus the fact that the 170bpm rule is followed by every man and his dog to such an extent i simply can't listen to anyone's tracks but my own nowadays it's too ****ing slow for me the riffs are non existent and the basslines are worse than a trailer full of cow manure
to put it bluntly there is pretty much no HARDcore being made in the UK the fact that a lot of people still refer to dutch hardcore as gabber astonishes me...thats REAL hardcore for god sake at least that scene has some unity and doesn't have a poster boy who doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself and his mates or or have a bucktooth dumb as **** bearded wanker who everyone seems to think is a god on the decks
GOD THAT FELT GOOD!!!!
You obviously maintain an interest in UK hardcore..... Why?
being completely honest...to see how bad it gets that's pretty much it because it just seems to get worse every year to me
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Samination
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Posted - 2014/12/23 : 20:32:15
quote: Originally posted by The Dopeman:
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
You obviously maintain an interest in UK hardcore..... Why?
being completely honest...to see how bad it gets that's pretty much it because it just seems to get worse every year to me
This might come of as two-faced (considering I also moaned alot about how Hardcore was in 2004-2009), but I agree with the other scotsman. Why? :P
I don't really fancy what DS is producing, but compared to the rest of the FW camp, it's still enjoyable.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2014/12/23 : 21:50:42
quote: Originally posted by Samination:
quote: Originally posted by The Dopeman:
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
You obviously maintain an interest in UK hardcore..... Why?
being completely honest...to see how bad it gets that's pretty much it because it just seems to get worse every year to me
This might come of as two-faced (considering I also moaned alot about how Hardcore was in 2004-2009), but I agree with the other scotsman. Why? :P
I don't really fancy what DS is producing, but compared to the rest of the FW camp, it's still enjoyable.
I agree. You have such an intolerance for anything produced in this genre, why stick around? Not that I want you to leave, I just get perplexed at your position on it all lol
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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2014/12/24 : 05:08:44
quote: Originally posted by Elipton:
quote: Originally posted by Samination:
quote: Originally posted by The Dopeman:
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
You obviously maintain an interest in UK hardcore..... Why?
being completely honest...to see how bad it gets that's pretty much it because it just seems to get worse every year to me
This might come of as two-faced (considering I also moaned alot about how Hardcore was in 2004-2009), but I agree with the other scotsman. Why? :P
I don't really fancy what DS is producing, but compared to the rest of the FW camp, it's still enjoyable.
I agree. You have such an intolerance for anything produced in this genre, why stick around? Not that I want you to leave, I just get perplexed at your position on it all lol
i like to have a good moan about things that bug me i know i could choose my word differently but i don't see the need i really want to like ukhc again i haven't enjoyed it in such a long time but at the same time i don't want to stop just incase the impossible happens and it gets better
It's not too much too ask for the big names to speed it up a bit have more insane riffs and harder kicks is it? drop all this "we want hardcore to be popular" crap and go back being hard i grew up with the shit it's pretty much all i listened to as a kid and now i can barely make it through 30 seconds of most tunes i know there is powerstomp but i haven't really got into that for some reason
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Posted - 2014/12/24 : 07:58:02
quote: Originally posted by The Dopeman:
quote: Originally posted by Elipton:
quote: Originally posted by Samination:
quote: Originally posted by The Dopeman:
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
You obviously maintain an interest in UK hardcore..... Why?
being completely honest...to see how bad it gets that's pretty much it because it just seems to get worse every year to me
This might come of as two-faced (considering I also moaned alot about how Hardcore was in 2004-2009), but I agree with the other scotsman. Why? :P
I don't really fancy what DS is producing, but compared to the rest of the FW camp, it's still enjoyable.
I agree. You have such an intolerance for anything produced in this genre, why stick around? Not that I want you to leave, I just get perplexed at your position on it all lol
It's not too much too ask for the big names to speed it up a bit have more insane riffs and harder kicks is it?
I think that's a bigger ask than you think. So much so that if a producer did it, it wouldn't be UKHC anymore, it'd be Frenchcore or one of those silly genres
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The Dopeman
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Posted - 2014/12/24 : 10:41:17
quote: Originally posted by Elipton:
quote: Originally posted by The Dopeman:
quote: Originally posted by Elipton:
quote: Originally posted by Samination:
quote: Originally posted by The Dopeman:
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
You obviously maintain an interest in UK hardcore..... Why?
being completely honest...to see how bad it gets that's pretty much it because it just seems to get worse every year to me
This might come of as two-faced (considering I also moaned alot about how Hardcore was in 2004-2009), but I agree with the other scotsman. Why? :P
I don't really fancy what DS is producing, but compared to the rest of the FW camp, it's still enjoyable.
I agree. You have such an intolerance for anything produced in this genre, why stick around? Not that I want you to leave, I just get perplexed at your position on it all lol
It's not too much too ask for the big names to speed it up a bit have more insane riffs and harder kicks is it?
I think that's a bigger ask than you think. So much so that if a producer did it, it wouldn't be UKHC anymore, it'd be Frenchcore or one of those silly genres
i wouldn't say go that extreme but upping the tempo to around the 190 mark and having the kind of riffs i like to make it would benefit the scene a tonne
they should bring back the kicks they used in the 90's aswell i don't see why they don't use them anymore it would make the tracks a bit more bouncier and if done right it would sound pretty damn good
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Posted - 2014/12/24 : 12:12:07
quote: Originally posted by The Dopeman:
quote: Originally posted by Elipton:
quote: Originally posted by The Dopeman:
quote: Originally posted by Elipton:
quote: Originally posted by Samination:
quote: Originally posted by The Dopeman:
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
You obviously maintain an interest in UK hardcore..... Why?
being completely honest...to see how bad it gets that's pretty much it because it just seems to get worse every year to me
This might come of as two-faced (considering I also moaned alot about how Hardcore was in 2004-2009), but I agree with the other scotsman. Why? :P
I don't really fancy what DS is producing, but compared to the rest of the FW camp, it's still enjoyable.
I agree. You have such an intolerance for anything produced in this genre, why stick around? Not that I want you to leave, I just get perplexed at your position on it all lol
It's not too much too ask for the big names to speed it up a bit have more insane riffs and harder kicks is it?
I think that's a bigger ask than you think. So much so that if a producer did it, it wouldn't be UKHC anymore, it'd be Frenchcore or one of those silly genres
i wouldn't say go that extreme but upping the tempo to around the 190 mark and having the kind of riffs i like to make it would benefit the scene a tonne
they should bring back the kicks they used in the 90's aswell i don't see why they don't use them anymore it would make the tracks a bit more bouncier and if done right it would sound pretty damn good
pitching it up 190 wouldnt be the same as happy hardcore. A lot of the Happy Hardcore (excluding dutch) I have are 165-175BPM :P
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Posted - 2014/12/28 : 15:54:30
I listened to those Facebook freebies the other day and, I have to say, they're a bit pants compared to his older stuff, which is a shame. The bass and kicks he uses are really good and powerful, though. I wonder if he's just a bit rusty or completely past his sell by date. He's definitely lost that Magic Touch, though.
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Posted - 2014/12/28 : 17:45:25
190 is a silly pace for most UK Happy Hardcore to be honest. Sounds stupid. Brisk type stuff can often get away with it though.
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Posted - 2014/12/28 : 23:14:13
quote: Originally posted by Mickey Init:
I listened to those Facebook freebies the other day and, I have to say, they're a bit pants compared to his older stuff, which is a shame. The bass and kicks he uses are really good and powerful, though. I wonder if he's just a bit rusty or completely past his sell by date. He's definitely lost that Magic Touch, though.
But he clearly still thinks he's Numero Uno.
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Posted - 2014/12/28 : 23:49:41
quote: Originally posted by Elliott:
quote: Originally posted by Mickey Init:
I listened to those Facebook freebies the other day and, I have to say, they're a bit pants compared to his older stuff, which is a shame. The bass and kicks he uses are really good and powerful, though. I wonder if he's just a bit rusty or completely past his sell by date. He's definitely lost that Magic Touch, though.
But he clearly still thinks he's Numero Uno.
Or eats up all the shit ppl feed him when they say he's still #1. These people who keep telling him that must not have ears.
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Posted - 2014/12/29 : 02:06:41
quote: Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote: Originally posted by Elliott:
quote: Originally posted by Mickey Init:
I listened to those Facebook freebies the other day and, I have to say, they're a bit pants compared to his older stuff, which is a shame. The bass and kicks he uses are really good and powerful, though. I wonder if he's just a bit rusty or completely past his sell by date. He's definitely lost that Magic Touch, though.
But he clearly still thinks he's Numero Uno.
Or eats up all the shit ppl feed him when they say he's still #1. These people who keep telling him that must not have ears.
All true but we were just doing a track title pun thing!
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Posted - 2015/01/01 : 06:46:55
Happy new years to all of you filthy fucks out there! I forgot to post this before I started to get super buzzed, or drunk or whatever.
Here is a post that Squad-E put up tonight. It started great, until the very last line. I loved what someone posted in response to this though!
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Posted - 2015/01/01 : 08:48:28
haha tosser
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Posted - 2015/01/01 : 08:50:59
and why have a dig at the bowlers rave? what's totally lost it done to him? or was it a dig at bounce heaven?
idiot
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