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Nolest
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Posted - 2016/05/18 :  16:39:28  Show profile Send a private message
So I was just exploring the hardcore techno wiki, and I stumbled upon full-on hardcore, a genre that I've never heard of, but whose description interested me: a combination of full-on psytrance and hardcore.
I already like the combination of trance and hardcore, aka freeform - my favorite hardcore genre, so this full-on thing is somewhat exciting.
I listened to "Fostbeat - 50 yrs", which is supposedly a full-on hardcore track, but to me, it sounded like freeform.

BASICALLY I just wanna know what is the difference between Freeform and Full-on.


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Edited by - Nolest on 2016/05/18 16:52:41
Samination
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I've never heard of the expression full-on hardcore, nor full-on psytrance. Based on what I could understand from wikipedia and a few mixes labeled fullon, fullon psytrance is basicly just the stuff you, as a normal dweeb, would associate with "regular" psytrance?

Freeform was originally not based on Psytrance, but Hard Trance from the same time period (end of the 90's), in the early/mid 2000, some producers, mainly those who started getting into hard trance and freeform in Finland, started making freeform hardcore influenced by (progressive?) psytrance.

I've had the pleasure of getting 50 yrs as a promo from Foster. I don't know what he would call the track, but to me it's not completly Freeform, but it's not mainstream hardcore. But psytrance? Like anything else called Freeform nowadays, it feels more like chill-out :P

And just to point out, my favorite Freeform styles is the stuff at the end of the 90's that they called Trancecore, aswell as the heavy stuff Sharkey, Tazz and Shanty made early 2000 (like Beast of Hardcore or Delusion)


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Edited by - Samination on 2016/05/18 17:58:07
DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2016/05/18 :  20:58:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ_FunDaBounce's homepage
Full-on psy-trance is definitely a term. Seen many local rave flyers use it. They've been using it for at least 10 years.

Never heard of full on hardcore, though.


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Edited by - DJ_FunDaBounce on 2016/05/18 21:07:26
Impulse_Response
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I believe you are talking about psycore, which is psytrance at high tempos. See the link below for numerous examples.

http://www.ektoplazm.com/style/psycore


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Nolest
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Posted - 2016/05/19 :  12:55:08  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Nolest's homepage
This is interesting stuff. Thank you all for the help. It is possible that full-on hardcore is not a very popular thing even among hardcore fans, or possibly just a made-up term by someone who decided to include it on wiki.
And thank you for that psycore link, very interesting stuff in there!


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trippnface
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full on psytrance is much closer to alot of the high power freeform i hear nowadays as opposed to old freeform; that just sounds really trancy. full on psytrance has fat; groovy; rolling basslines.

full on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csCuxaQs-hY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-yKyO3Wgzo

transcend & cyrax; as well as greg peaks remind me of "full on" at times; in terms of energy.. but freeform is more like dark psy at times too...

freeform
https://soundcloud.com/teslatracks/greg-peaks-energy-tesla-tracks-free

darkpsy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq_wOhofTIE


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Edited by - trippnface on 2016/05/19 15:39:51
warped_candykid
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I've never heard the term "Full-On" Psytrance, and I've been attending psy events since 2006. I have heard terms like 'Full-Power', which is the step right before 'dark psy'. I've also heard 'morning psy' as the slower, more melodic stuff, and 'progressive psy' as psytrance that you wait and wait for something to happen, and it never does, maybe that's the 'full on'?

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trippnface
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quote:
Originally posted by Jacco:




Hi tech!!

the best type of psy trance; by the best psy dj

CRAZY ASTRONAUT IS GOD!


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DJ_FunDaBounce
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quote:
Originally posted by Jacco:




wow! nice! really liked the blend of styles. :)

That guy's got some talent.

Thanx for sharing that.


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