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raver46
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 Posted - 2017/10/05 : 20:03:45
Is it me or does a lot of hardcore lack bass these days what i mean is the hardcore of many years ago had a lot of bass but nowadays i find on some tunes it feels like i have to turn the bass knob up that little bit more on my controller and if so are the tunes intentionally made like this thanks lee
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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2017/10/05 : 20:56:29
Relatively speaking, Hardcore has never been massively about having lots of bass. The driving factor behind the genre has always been the kick drum, and for the past decade or so, kick-drums have become more punchy.
This is in comparison with tracks that use breakbeat loops like Drum & Bass or the modern Future genres (Future House, Future Bass) which are more bassline driven.
Perhaps this gives a little more insight to the production ethos behind the music :)
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ViolonC
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Posted - 2017/10/05 : 22:58:50
If you compare Hardcore to D&B it indeed usually lacks the really low frequencies and has less overall bass. As already said hardcore is more about movement and bounciness than a big wall of bass.
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2017/10/06 : 14:32:12
Bass is more of a thing in Hardstyle and the offshoots. Back in the 2000s some kids where obsessed with this 'bass heavy music' and couldn't get enough of it!
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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2017/10/06 : 14:45:21
I think it has to do with mastering for vinyl. Gave it that nice analogue feel. now most stuff is just squashed to the max, digitally.
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raver46
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Posted - 2017/10/06 : 17:59:54
yeah i understand what a few of you on here are saying maybe using the word bass was wrong what i mean is the earlier hardcore for example breeze & styles stuff seemed to have a lot more beef to it if that makes any sense where as now a lot of it sounds tamer
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Archefluxx
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Posted - 2017/10/06 : 18:23:56
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
I think it has to do with mastering for vinyl. Gave it that nice analogue feel. now most stuff is just squashed to the max, digitally.
Vinyl has always had a limitation on bass. Generally you get a more muddy sound from analog music, but there has historically been mastering limitations to vinyl. Basslines in particular are very difficult to master for vinyl as lower frequencies tend to mean a vinyl has a groove that is more likely to throw the needle out.
More info here:
http://www.cutadub.com/Limitations-Vinyl-Records
http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Myths_(Vinyl)
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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2017/10/06 : 19:30:29
quote:
Originally posted by Archefluxx:
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
I think it has to do with mastering for vinyl. Gave it that nice analogue feel. now most stuff is just squashed to the max, digitally.
Vinyl has always had a limitation on bass. Generally you get a more muddy sound from analog music, but there has historically been mastering limitations to vinyl. Basslines in particular are very difficult to master for vinyl as lower frequencies tend to mean a vinyl has a groove that is more likely to throw the needle out.
More info here:
http://www.cutadub.com/Limitations-Vinyl-Records
http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Myths_(Vinyl)
Thanx for the reminder. Yes, I've read about that phenomenon before.
What I am referring to, though, is the beefy-ness attained through the use of analogue circuitry and not digital harshness related to digital systems. Nowadays, it's more likely that an all digital system will have been used to produce a track, resulting in a clear crisp sound that, when compared to older tracks, it may seem as though the older stuff (vinyl?) is bass heavier.
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/10/07 : 06:38:27
always nice to read some Hydrogen artiles, especially about the need to stop with the higher resolution shit.
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Posted - 2017/10/07 : 12:00:18
i have said it a thousand times, you can have wait i told AniMe
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