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Dudweiser
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Posted - 2018/02/26 :  00:38:38  Show profile Send a private message  Visit Dudweiser's homepage
Was just wondering what everyone elses opinion is on the way "uk hardcore" has changed over the years, growing up I started listening to bonkers and progressed from there. This new generation stuff to me is utter trash and closer to dubstep or trap or whatever the hell you can call it. Kinda noticed this change start around clubland xtreme hardcore 8 and its never been the same since. I really only follow the likes of powerstomp these days, was wondering if anyone knows any artists still producing uk hardcore style music as its pretty hard to come by anything that doesn't disgrace my eyedrums lol. Heres a few link examples as to what I mean.



Creative genius:

https://youtu.be/Z9dcSqadvyE



Ear-wrecking garbage:

https://youtu.be/RVX9B8bHaDw




Lemme know what you guys think, maybe im just old fashioned lol but that new stuff to me doesnt deserve to be called hardcore in any way. Hardcore desire to hit my speakers with a mallet. Maybe?


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lainnix
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Posted - 2018/02/26 :  00:54:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit lainnix's homepage
I also really love that older style like Bonkers. The current generation is laced with annoying vocalists and all-too-predictable sequences. Some of it's good, but I end up skipping over a lot of tracks because they're just genuinely not fun to listen to.

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Impulse_Response
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Posted - 2018/02/26 :  01:30:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Impulse_Response's homepage
I started listening around 2011 but I feel the same way you do. I like a lot of the older stuff, but I can't stand the ear-wrecking EDM crapcore of today. In fact I have a hard time finding any new hardcore I like, whether western or Japanese.

By the way, don't tell rafferty about this thread. He'll have a meltdown.


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Dudweiser
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Posted - 2018/02/26 :  01:35:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dudweiser's homepage
Haha well I'm glad i am not the only one. Its disappointing thinking about what the likes of darren styles, gammer hixxy etc could have been making had this disgusting change not taken place. Btw Im a noob to this forum so dont know who that is or why they'd have a meltdown lol. You may need to enlighten me

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warped_candykid
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Posted - 2018/02/26 :  03:12:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit warped_candykid's homepage
I'm like you, I enjoy the tracks of yesteryear. When I started listening to Happy Hardcore, Happy2bHardcore Chapter 6 has just been released in the States (2001). Tracks today have that soft, mushy drum beat instead of the harder drum beats years ago. And it's like, so many tracks now have that watery synth sample. Intro's are boring...I can't wait for this era to phase out. DJ's aren't doing any interesting tricks or transitions on CD mixes, which leads back to tracks having boring intros that usually last for 30-40 sec.

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Edited by - warped_candykid on 2018/02/26 03:16:13
trippnface
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Posted - 2018/02/26 :  03:35:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit trippnface's homepage
*head falls off from furious head shaking of approval*

Gammer banned me from commenting on his fb page.. but so did HTID USA...

they don't like community opinions :/



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Hard2Get
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It appears that most people feel this way eventually. The time changes depending on when they got into the genre. For me the vast majority of Hardcore after 2005 is terrible, getting exponentially worse in the few years following. Although the quality has improved in the last couple of years, now that the music has moved away from being focused on profitability somewhat. Many people will say the same about the years that i love. There are some people who love the old stuff and still love the new stuff as well.
Clearly 'quality' is entirely subjective.


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2018/02/26 10:01:49
Bring Me Round To Love
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To be honest the top tier have been pushing for a more commercial sound for well over a decade now.

Cause i need you to pay me, please just pay me buy my tunes. always been about the money and the pizza and trying to be trendy, which what Happy Hardcore/UK Hardcore was never about, should be going against the system not following it.


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Triquatra
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Posted - 2018/02/26 :  11:14:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Bring Me Round To Love:
To be honest the top tier have been pushing for a more commercial sound for well over a decade now.



yeeeeeeeeeeeep.


two example tracks at the top of the page might as well have been from the same mix.


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Dudweiser
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Posted - 2018/02/26 :  12:00:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dudweiser's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
quote:
Originally posted by Bring Me Round To Love:
To be honest the top tier have been pushing for a more commercial sound for well over a decade now.



yeeeeeeeeeeeep.


two example tracks at the top of the page might as well have been from the same mix.





I dont get what you mean, they were a comparrison of darren styles then and now. Completely different styles that most certainly sound nothing like each other. i.e one is champion the other is dugmeat lol. But indeed it does seem to be all about the money and keeping relevent to todays world?

Step 1: Wait for the drop
Step 2: Have a seizure


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Edited by - Dudweiser on 2018/02/26 12:04:47
Triquatra
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Posted - 2018/02/26 :  12:15:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage
My point was more that the two styles are still around - just both equally done to death over the past 10 years.



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PecheyTheLizard
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Posted - 2018/02/26 :  12:25:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit PecheyTheLizard's homepage
Okay I had a pretty good response's gong on but thanks to the ads it's all gone lol

Basically:
-been listening to hardcore since 2011
-Like all forms of hardcore despite era or sound
-Favorite era: 04-08 UK/happy hardcore
-if you don't like the hybrid hardcore sound, then don't listen to it lol.
-90s happy hardcore is my least favorite, but that doesn't mean I don't listen to it
-i love modern hardcore because a lot of it is focused on Melody and beautiful leads which people constantly complain about because PLUR no longer exists.
-im surprised I even check this site out because man some of y'all are grumpy gooses.
-also give freeform and makina more love because yes.


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Dudweiser
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Posted - 2018/02/26 :  17:30:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Dudweiser's homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Triquatra:
My point was more that the two styles are still around - just both equally done to death over the past 10 years.





Ah, I get you. So do you know of any artists still producing the style around say 2010-2012? Bonkers Original Hardcore / Clubland Xtreme Hardcore 4-7 that type. I find it hard to find any new ones really.


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Edited by - Dudweiser on 2018/02/26 17:32:48
Triquatra
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Off the top of my head


https://www.beatport.com/release/my-world/2198685

I can't be that much help though, I stopped actively trying to follow hardcore around about 2007. So much stuff out there. Surely you can just pull up a few soundcloud mixes and find what you're after?


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