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tru bass
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Posted - 2009/02/18 :  00:44:39  Show profile Send a private message
i have an acapella of a trance track.. so its about 130-150bpm and i have a song ready for the vocals to be put into which is 175bpm and i just cant get them in time...

does anyone have a good technique of getting them in sync? or could do it for me :P


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You're using FL aren't you?

You could drag it to the correct size using guess work.

You could find out the bpm by turning the metronome on and changing the tracks bpm till it matches the vocal and then timestretch it.

You could use an external program or a stopwatch and calculate the bpm yourself then timestretch it.



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Posted - 2009/02/18 :  11:34:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit tru bass's homepage
yeah.. i suppose..

im just really lazy and wondered if there was an easy way of doing it other than stretching it


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i found the easiest way to stretch is to first chop the vox into sections
verse1 chorus verse 2 chorus etc.... FL doesn't make it easy to stretch a full pella over that sort of bpm distance, unless like said above you do it in an audio editor & then stretch the track to fit


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I use a program called DJBPM to get the original track's BPM

Then I slap it into Cubase/any other sequencer and set the project tempo to that BPM. I play with the project tempo until the grid in Cubase matches up perfectly. That gives me the exact tempo.

Then I stick the acapella in TimeFactory 2 (best timestretching algorhythm) and "preserve formants", then input old BPM and new BPM.

All done. Fix anything slightly off using slicing.


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quote:
Originally posted by tru bass:
i have an acapella of a trance track.. so its about 130-150bpm and i have a song ready for the vocals to be put into which is 175bpm and i just cant get them in time...

does anyone have a good technique of getting them in sync? or could do it for me :P


I would have thought the fact that there is over 20 bpm difference between the 2 (making it impossible to get them in sync), would be blatantly obvious but evidently not.
You need to use a wave editor to time compress the vocals so they are the same bpm (after finding the actual bpm of the vocals). I personally use the time stretching tool in Cubase but most wave editors should have one.


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tru bass
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quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
quote:
Originally posted by tru bass:
i have an acapella of a trance track.. so its about 130-150bpm and i have a song ready for the vocals to be put into which is 175bpm and i just cant get them in time...

does anyone have a good technique of getting them in sync? or could do it for me :P


I would have thought the fact that there is over 20 bpm difference between the 2 (making it impossible to get them in sync), would be blatantly obvious but evidently not.
You need to use a wave editor to time compress the vocals so they are the same bpm (after finding the actual bpm of the vocals). I personally use the time stretching tool in Cubase but most wave editors should have one.



Im not thick.. i know its physically impossible to match two songs at different bpms.


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