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Gazza1712
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Posted - 2014/06/23 : 09:39:39
He wanted a massive fee for mcing for 3 days, I'm talking a huge amount, then they told him no chance and he tried calling up and begging to be put back on the line up at the last minute, I was told this by someone involved with htid
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2014/06/23 : 11:47:04
If that is indeed true, then good on them for sticking to their guns. They could have even sneakily drafted Sy in there, but I can see why they wouldn't.
We all know Storm won't play events with Sy anymore, but is Unknown on the same boat? He obviously won't work alongside him now but is he unwilling to even play the same events as him too?
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HollowRipper
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Posted - 2014/06/23 : 21:08:31
I found out at now that's what i call hardcore on saturday that there was 180 full week tickets sold. With it jumping to over 400 for the weekend.
Explains why they changed the club a few times really.
Also been told that it's been confirmed for next year, but not 100% on that info yet.
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Quicksilver
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Posted - 2014/06/23 : 22:05:15
Only around 600? And I guess next year even less due to the negativity I've heard this year's round... :P
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/06/23 : 22:06:03
quote: Originally posted by HollowRipper:
I found out at now that's what i call hardcore on saturday that there was 180 full week tickets sold. With it jumping to over 400 for the weekend.
Explains why they changed the club a few times really.
Also been told that it's been confirmed for next year, but not 100% on that info yet.
Serious???? Looks like a lot more people than that looking at the waterpark party videos. If they decide to have another one, they should downscale it to an extended weekend thing, like Ibiza Goes Hard has been doing. Get in thursday night for kickoff, friday you have a yacht party and friday night of course, saturday the waterpark party, saturday night shortened night, sunday the last yacht party or beach party and sunday night closing.
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2014/06/23 : 22:07:10
quote: Originally posted by HollowRipper:
I found out at now that's what i call hardcore on saturday that there was 180 full week tickets sold. With it jumping to over 400 for the weekend.
Explains why they changed the club a few times really.
Also been told that it's been confirmed for next year, but not 100% on that info yet.
Surprised if they made any money with those kind of numbers. My back of fag packet calculations work out around ?50k ticket sales being generous. Of which you would need to deduct Artist fees/flights/accommodation, staff costs, club rental etc.
That's a really poor turnout. Would also seem to back up Gazzas post earlier about storm being cancelled after demanding a huge fee.
They usually announce that they're coming back on the closing set each year. Not sure if that was the case last night or not.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/06/23 : 22:22:50
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote: Originally posted by HollowRipper:
I found out at now that's what i call hardcore on saturday that there was 180 full week tickets sold. With it jumping to over 400 for the weekend.
Explains why they changed the club a few times really.
Also been told that it's been confirmed for next year, but not 100% on that info yet.
Surprised if they made any money with those kind of numbers. My back of fag packet calculations work out around ?50k ticket sales being generous. Of which you would need to deduct Artist fees/flights/accommodation, staff costs, club rental etc.
That's a really poor turnout. Would also seem to back up Gazzas post earlier about storm being cancelled after demanding a huge fee.
They usually announce that they're coming back on the closing set each year. Not sure if that was the case last night or not.
Even if they don't come back next year, they're still going to say they will. The best thing that could happen now is that Raver's Ibiza event bombs just as equally, or worse, in order to bring back all those ravers they lost with the move. Currently the lineup has yet to be released with only 3 months left, and no information on club-only passes. I could make it happen, go to the event and come back, but it's got to be an impressive lineup for me to do such a thing.
But even then I don't think that's enough. There were of course some very positive feedback by the handful there, but there were some mixed to negative feedback as well. More people seemed upset at the lack of communication about the beach party and venue change than shitstorm not being there, which is a great sign I think.
I just think scaling it down is the best choice for them.
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2014/06/24 : 06:54:00
quote: Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote: Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote: Originally posted by HollowRipper:
I found out at now that's what i call hardcore on saturday that there was 180 full week tickets sold. With it jumping to over 400 for the weekend.
Explains why they changed the club a few times really.
Also been told that it's been confirmed for next year, but not 100% on that info yet.
Surprised if they made any money with those kind of numbers. My back of fag packet calculations work out around ?50k ticket sales being generous. Of which you would need to deduct Artist fees/flights/accommodation, staff costs, club rental etc.
That's a really poor turnout. Would also seem to back up Gazzas post earlier about storm being cancelled after demanding a huge fee.
They usually announce that they're coming back on the closing set each year. Not sure if that was the case last night or not.
Even if they don't come back next year, they're still going to say they will. The best thing that could happen now is that Raver's Ibiza event bombs just as equally, or worse, in order to bring back all those ravers they lost with the move. Currently the lineup has yet to be released with only 3 months left, and no information on club-only passes. I could make it happen, go to the event and come back, but it's got to be an impressive lineup for me to do such a thing.
But even then I don't think that's enough. There were of course some very positive feedback by the handful there, but there were some mixed to negative feedback as well. More people seemed upset at the lack of communication about the beach party and venue change than shitstorm not being there, which is a great sign I think.
I just think scaling it down is the best choice for them.
I agree that scaling it down is the best course of action, I said exactly the same last year. Would boost numbers and make for a much better line up imo. If those numbers are correct I really don't see any other choice for HTID, other than not bothering at all.
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2014/06/24 : 15:10:27
Crumbs! Really low numbers.
Does anyone have any idea of how many tickets have been sold for Ravers? Or, even, how many they were hoping to sell?
I really boody want to do a raving holiday. I hope all this business this year hasn't damaged things beyond repair for next year/years to come.
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Claxton
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Posted - 2014/06/24 : 18:18:48
If only promoters could stop being children and actually work together for the good of the scene.
I hope the numbers are low for Ravers too and it forces them to do something together (fat chance) rather than them fighting against eachother in a small scene.
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skarr
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Posted - 2014/06/24 : 18:32:30
Pretty sure sc@r said on here htid and keyes fell out so cant see that happening.
Imagine if sc@r dumped Steve htid when htid flops and got with keyes instead, that would be some proper coronation street style business, lol.
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2014/06/24 : 19:30:28
lol a Hardcore scene-based soap would be amazing. Preferably aired on Channel 5 of E4. I would love to write some stuff for that!
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/06/24 : 22:29:07
Lol a bit wrong to suggest she could or would but that would make for some hilarious hardcore drama. But there are plenty of skanks around that have caused plenty of drama in the UK scene.
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skarr
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Posted - 2014/06/24 : 23:00:32
I didnt say she 'could' or 'would', i said 'imagine', would be funny though.
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HollowRipper
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Posted - 2014/06/25 : 18:27:30
HTID have never made money on in the sun. Not once, it's held up by innovation in the sun, which is mega heaving every year.
Ravers Ibiza is on it's way to flopping too. Keyes was forced to book 2 full hotels before the club owners would even entertain the idea of hosting his nights. Because of this he has 2 full hotels to try and sell. When no one wants to book them.
All people want to do is the same as they do in lloret, book flights, hotel etc on their own and then club only passes. This is why the club only tickets still haven't been released. The total numbers as of now are apparently very poor.
But to be honest, even if it does go ahead, a lot of people are gonna get a shock. Ibiza itself and the people that are already there simply will not tolerate the behaviour of (some) ravers.
And i guarantee people will do nothing but complain about the clubs. No pass out's till 2am, and even then only once. The prices are ludicrous as well, 12/13 euros for a bottle of lager, 8 euros for a bottle of water. And that was 2007!
Be interesting to see what actually happens!
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