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Rodz90
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 Posted - 2014/02/13 : 16:50:01
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Originally posted by Sc@r:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
While that is true that promoters need to work together, it's pretty obvious that HTID is the promoter who isn't trying at all to work with anyone else. Announcing an HTID USA event and a possible HTID Australia event, and leaving HU in the dark about it is rather a slap in the face. HU has had gigs in the past in the US and Canada, even having a traditional HU night at least once a year in Toronto for the last couple of years. And they're having a small US tour coming up this year in the US as well.
Regardless of what an arrogant prick and a godawful MC Keyes is, an event like Raver's Ibiza AND Ibiza Goes Hard are prime examples of HTID unwilling to listen and work with others besides the same djs they always work with.
there is alot behind the scenes that goes on to try make the scene work that people don't actually see.
Give examples asides from the Keyes reference, what have HTID done to support brands such as I Love Hardbeats and Hardcore Underground asides from booking artists?
From a personal perspective one of the worst things you can do is comment on here about stuff like this, we know that you're engaged with somebody from HTID so it gives off the impression of being biased.
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Sc@r
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Posted - 2014/02/13 : 17:11:39
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Give examples asides from the Keyes reference, what have HTID done to support brands such as I Love Hardbeats and Hardcore Underground asides from booking artists?
From a personal perspective one of the worst things you can do is comment on here about stuff like this, we know that you're engaged with somebody from HTID so it gives off the impression of being biased.
they have sent out FREE eflyers and advertisement for Hardcore Underground (every album they have release), I Love Hard Beats and even Rebuilds albums and promoted them on their facebook walls/twitter etc whenever they have asked without payment and to help them with their advertisement plus other labels and many artists mixes or podcasts when they have been asked - klubfiller, gammer, rough tempo etc
yeah I might be engaged to someone who works for HTID but I also see first hand how much hard work, dedication and love that goes into their events. So I might be biased on the fact I support alot of what they do, theres also some things that I don't. I do usually stay out of my partners work, like he stays out of my career unless I see unfair rumours etc
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/02/13 : 20:17:48
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Originally posted by Rodz90:
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Originally posted by Sc@r:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
While that is true that promoters need to work together, it's pretty obvious that HTID is the promoter who isn't trying at all to work with anyone else. Announcing an HTID USA event and a possible HTID Australia event, and leaving HU in the dark about it is rather a slap in the face. HU has had gigs in the past in the US and Canada, even having a traditional HU night at least once a year in Toronto for the last couple of years. And they're having a small US tour coming up this year in the US as well.
Regardless of what an arrogant prick and a godawful MC Keyes is, an event like Raver's Ibiza AND Ibiza Goes Hard are prime examples of HTID unwilling to listen and work with others besides the same djs they always work with.
there is alot behind the scenes that goes on to try make the scene work that people don't actually see.
From a personal perspective one of the worst things you can do is comment on here about stuff like this, we know that you're engaged with somebody from HTID so it gives off the impression of being biased.
lmao wow I can't believe someone took it there.
While I won't deny that the thought had crossed my mind a couple of times, it's pretty clear that Sc@r relies on her own merits for her bookings and success. It also helps that she's one of the very few female UK hardcore djs currently out there who DJs AND produces. She gets booked quite a bit for gigs in North America, currently probably the most out of all the UK hardcore djs. She's an extremely social person and from what I can tell one of the easiest UK Hardcore djs/producers to get along with and work alongside. I think her current relationship did give her a bit of a boost, but after that her success is all her own.
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Rodz90
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Posted - 2014/02/13 : 20:22:01
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
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Originally posted by Rodz90:
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Originally posted by Sc@r:
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
While that is true that promoters need to work together, it's pretty obvious that HTID is the promoter who isn't trying at all to work with anyone else. Announcing an HTID USA event and a possible HTID Australia event, and leaving HU in the dark about it is rather a slap in the face. HU has had gigs in the past in the US and Canada, even having a traditional HU night at least once a year in Toronto for the last couple of years. And they're having a small US tour coming up this year in the US as well.
Regardless of what an arrogant prick and a godawful MC Keyes is, an event like Raver's Ibiza AND Ibiza Goes Hard are prime examples of HTID unwilling to listen and work with others besides the same djs they always work with.
there is alot behind the scenes that goes on to try make the scene work that people don't actually see.
From a personal perspective one of the worst things you can do is comment on here about stuff like this, we know that you're engaged with somebody from HTID so it gives off the impression of being biased.
lmao wow I can't believe someone took it there.
While I won't deny that the thought had crossed my mind a couple of times, it's pretty clear that Sc@r relies on her own merits for her bookings and success. It also helps that she's one of the very few female UK hardcore djs currently out there who DJs AND produces. She gets booked quite a bit for gigs in North America, currently probably the most out of all the UK hardcore djs. She's an extremely social person and from what I can tell one of the easiest UK Hardcore djs/producers to get along with and work alongside. I think her current relationship did give her a bit of a boost, but after that her success is all her own.
Your mistaking this as an accusation, it's not, it's simply my perspective. I know what your saying and Sc@r actually helps out one of my friends Dave, so yes i'm aware of what she does in the scene and how hard she works.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2014/02/13 : 23:01:29
I think that speculative comments against the HTID promoters without any foundation are uncalled for. I don't want to sound like I'm having a pop at anyone, but how on earth would any of you know what goes on, or whom talks to to whom?
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djDMS
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Posted - 2014/02/13 : 23:48:15
Just to play devils advocate slightly.
Why should one company effectively give their business to another who could be considered a rival?
There's a new Sainsburys supermarket opening down the road from me, i'm pretty sure there won't be an aisle of Asda products in it!
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Elipton
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Posted - 2014/02/14 : 05:10:18
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Just to play devils advocate slightly.
Why should one company effectively give their business to another who could be considered a rival?
There's a new Sainsburys supermarket opening down the road from me, i'm pretty sure there won't be an aisle of Asda products in it!
I agree actually. It's always very nice to see events companies working together, but there's no requirement to. No noblesse oblige ethic exists, and why should there be?
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2014/02/14 : 08:12:23
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Originally posted by Elipton:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Just to play devils advocate slightly.
Why should one company effectively give their business to another who could be considered a rival?
There's a new Sainsburys supermarket opening down the road from me, i'm pretty sure there won't be an aisle of Asda products in it!
I agree actually. It's always very nice to see events companies working together, but there's no requirement to. No noblesse oblige ethic exists, and why should there be?
Of course there is no obligation for promoters to work together. But in a scene of this size ie. Extremely small, there should definetly be more of an effort to work together. It's nothing like a supermarket war where the customer base is huge. From what scar says it looks like Htid made an effort, but Keyes being the total bell end that he is, went and pushed on regardless.
The end result here is going to be at least one extremely under-attended overseas event. And that's not fair on the people who do attend it.
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Sc@r
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Posted - 2014/02/14 : 10:21:50
A bit of competition is always healthy its how the person/company deals with the competition that makes or breaks them.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/06/13 : 03:49:18
So this is starting next week right? Who all is going then?
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2014/06/13 : 07:19:25
Not me this year. Was only ever going to do the weekend but had to scrap that due to a number of things. A wee bit dissapointed but done it the last 2 years so not too bothered. Haven't really seen much hype or build-up this year but I suppose I've not been going out my way to look for it. Will be very interesting to see what the numbers are like this year.
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2014/06/13 : 07:32:55
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Not me this year. Was only ever going to do the weekend but had to scrap that due to a number of things. A wee bit dissapointed but done it the last 2 years so not too bothered. Haven't really seen much hype or build-up this year but I suppose I've not been going out my way to look for it. Will be very interesting to see what the numbers are like this year.
Yes hopefully we have an informant here to fill us in on all the details for this year.
It's still annoying that Raver's Ibiza has yet to release their lineup. They said they would once they've hit 2,000 people attending, yet nothing. Clearly they're still trying to put everything together.
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Audio Warfare
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Posted - 2014/06/13 : 08:09:51
Gutted I'm not going this year now. :( The only one I've missed is the first one. Think I'll need to avoid Facebook for the week when all the photos start going up etc. haha.
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Cyrax
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Posted - 2014/06/13 : 08:56:17
am going to this , dont know why though as the majority of sets arent my thing , it will be nice getting wrecked in the sun though.
Jay if you're going to this i'll see you next week !
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_Jay_
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Posted - 2014/06/13 : 11:33:55
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Jay if you're going to this i'll see you next week !
Sadly not bro beans. :-(
Me and my girlfriend were 100% behind doing it this year. Then Ravers was announced and it threw us completely. Which one do we do? Will the numbers be completely diluted at both? Do we want to risk a couple of grand on an atmosphericless week?
So in the end we decided against it. If Ravers did a weekend package I'd consider it. But to be honest, I'd like to see how the music develops over the next 12 months and have a think about one of the events next year. The basic, electro, minimal mainstream sounds doesn't do it for me - and although I realise there would be varied sets, themed sets, classic sets - I don't fancy it at the moment.
Moving into a place with my girlfriend next week as well, so financially it would have been a nightmare if we'd committed.
Hope you have a very powerful time though man! Are any of the Freeform LADS playing?
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