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Are any major labels pressing vinyl?

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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2014/03/17 :  21:18:47  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
The end product is gonna be cleaner, the (general) listeners/partygoers will have an evening of flawless mixing, but from a DJ point of view, software mixing is boring as sin. At least with CDs you are still actually doing something. It gives you more time to interact with the crowd or whatever else it is you do but still, there's a difference between cueing up your records, frantically flicking through your record boxes with time running out, actually physically handling music etc, and setting a playlist and having software do everything for you.
These days it's mostly CD for me. When I'm playing non dance, or stuff that doesn't really require mixing, I tend to use software as there is simply too much to take all my CDs with me, and the convenience is actually handy. But it's not nearly as exciting.


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DJ SCOTT DEVOTION
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Posted - 2014/03/18 :  09:25:46  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ SCOTT DEVOTION's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Samination:
I thought the best way is to actually be played? :P

CDDJs might taken out the fun for some, but in the end, isn't it all about the music instead of what it's on?



You are right, it is about the music. I just feel imo that mixing vinyl is better, I enjoyed it more, I have not mixed much vinyl in the last 8 years, it has been all cd's. It just takes the fun out of it for me. I also feel with cd's you get DJ's pissing about with effets and mashing things up to much which takes away flow of sounds and sound really awful 99% of the time as the dj just wants to make some wired sound out of somthing, so I feel it effects the music imo. I find this a lot with hardcore music listening to it now, but that could be me I do not really like hardcore now anyway.

Everyone likes there own way, each way has it's good points. Just as a whole it was great when vinyl was pressed as the main means of playing music, when record shops were open and people met at shops and you had that close rave community. Now it is just D/L, got it, chat behind a computer to someone you dont even no, so yeah the spirit records gave as a whole, was good, it made people go out and visit the shops and interact too.

Each to there own I suppose, if your happy playing whatever form and it is making you happy, then it is all good, but it is interesting to here what other people think. :)



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Posted - 2014/03/19 :  22:21:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Warnman's homepage  Reply with quote
Digital releases made it a whole lot more easier for idiots to release their garbage. If a lot of peoples would be faced to the situation to find someone who thinks it's worth to invests their money in physical releases or never be able to release anything at all, the quality of the productions would increase a lot.
Today it's just simply press upload and walk away!
To my opinion there is no way that Hardcore Music is able to survive in such a minimalist society which is going on today.


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Samination
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Posted - 2014/03/20 :  09:30:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Warnman:
Digital releases made it a whole lot more easier for idiots to release their garbage. If a lot of peoples would be faced to the situation to find someone who thinks it's worth to invests their money in physical releases or never be able to release anything at all, the quality of the productions would increase a lot.
Today it's just simply press upload and walk away!
To my opinion there is no way that Hardcore Music is able to survive in such a minimalist society which is going on today.



I wouldn't contribute the current "mainstream" on vinyl dying. It would've changed style even if it where still on Vinyl. Also, some of the later generations (like Synthwulf, S3rl and Ranzor) wouldn't get the same recognistion as they have today if it wheren't for digital releases.


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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2014/03/20 :  13:14:38  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Hard2Get's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
quote:
Originally posted by Warnman:
Digital releases made it a whole lot more easier for idiots to release their garbage. If a lot of peoples would be faced to the situation to find someone who thinks it's worth to invests their money in physical releases or never be able to release anything at all, the quality of the productions would increase a lot.
Today it's just simply press upload and walk away!
To my opinion there is no way that Hardcore Music is able to survive in such a minimalist society which is going on today.



I wouldn't contribute the current "mainstream" on vinyl dying. It would've changed style even if it where still on Vinyl. Also, some of the later generations (like Synthwulf, S3rl and Ranzor) wouldn't get the same recognistion as they have today if it wheren't for digital releases.



You have misunderstood. He is saying that with labels not releasing vinyl there is no risk in them releasing sub-tandard tunes that they otherwise wouldn't. He wasn't talking about change in style.


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Edited by - Hard2Get on 2014/03/20 13:15:24
DJ SCOTT DEVOTION
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Posted - 2014/03/20 :  15:55:04  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit DJ SCOTT DEVOTION's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Warnman:
Digital releases made it a whole lot more easier for idiots to release their garbage. If a lot of peoples would be faced to the situation to find someone who thinks it's worth to invests their money in physical releases or never be able to release anything at all, the quality of the productions would increase a lot.
Today it's just simply press upload and walk away!
To my opinion there is no way that Hardcore Music is able to survive in such a minimalist society which is going on today.



Yeah, I agree to the comment above very much. I have a taken a look back at hardcore after not listening for 4 years and just for me I can not find a track I like at all and noticed 99% of the music was so below any kind of half decent standard, but then again hardcore is such a tiny scene you are going to get a lot of this, there seems to be to little music coming form too little amount of labels with quality infrastructure.

I can agree that cd's and small labels are really impacting hardcore in terms of going on to a download site and being bogged down with mounds of crap before you might find somthing half decent, it seems to be found , but, I can not get my head around how backdated it sounds and weak. But that is imo. I do not think vinyl is going to make a return in hardcore any time soon.


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