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Elliott
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 Posted - 2015/04/09 : 11:04:04
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Originally posted by ViolonC:
Funny thing probably is... Hardcore always absorbed the other electronic styles somewhat. But not until recently dance music became mainstream. So there was no need to be critical for the "main stream" influence on hardcore - that little bit that's always there is okay - because dance music wasn't main stream. You may correct me, but i can't recall a Styles track with silly amount of trap in it, even the hollow "big room" kick/bass. Not that i would be mad if there was one. Comparison with Gammer is understandable but he didn't really leave the Hardcore sound (as some would perceive) as Gammer an Breeze did, yet.
For as long as I've been listening, hardcore has just been a 170bpm emulation of whatever was considered popular in dance music at the time. It's telling that so many hardcore remixes over the years have been mere timestretches of the original tracks.
It's a problem now (and people are being critical of it) because the current state of mainstream dance music isn't good and isn't worth replicating. If you speed up shite, you get faster shite.
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Shades
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Posted - 2015/04/09 : 11:26:37
Where is the quote of the day thread when you need one lol
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Originally posted by Elliott:
The current state of mainstream dance music isn't good and isn't worth replicating. If you speed up shite, you get faster shite.
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jordesuvi
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Posted - 2015/04/09 : 11:50:46
As it stands right now. I really enjoy dance music.
Granted that some fakes have earned themselves a slot in a festival lineup somehow but otherwise the creativity and variety dance music offers (if you listen to stuff outside of whatever is in a chart) is phenomenal.
I would actually be interested in seeing hardcore take influence from genre's outside of big room and electro.
Adding sex appeal through moombahton/jersey club influence could be interesting. Or perhaps deeper bass synths instead of layered supersaws could work
By all means I love the traditional UK Hardcore sound but I'm open to the genre expanding and seeing what else it is capable of.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2015/04/09 : 18:25:05
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Originally posted by Elliott:
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Originally posted by Elipton:
Personally, I think Darren Styles has gotten lucky riding off of his successful history. He's done well both commercially and locally a decade ago, and he's been just active enough to sustain that with events and the occasional trend-following release (and generally for being Hardcore's little pretty-boy). He's done no more than anyone else to get ahead since AATW failed.
Really? I mean, the guy has earned the right to coast a little with his track record but I reckon he was still one of the best producers in the scene until very recently.
What's he done that's kept him at the apex since he was landing albums and big hits on AATW?
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2015/04/09 : 18:36:52
He's where he is because of what he's done though not because what he is doing now. He has earned himself this status. What he does with it now is up to him.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2015/04/09 : 18:59:09
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
He's where he is because of what he's done though not because what he is doing now. He has earned himself this status. What he does with it now is up to him.
You're getting me wrong. He's done a fantastic job and has a plethora of achievements, but his past success has made his fan base at the moment very deceiving. His current form, following and reach are not sufficient for him to be Hardcore's prized asset.
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nanobii
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Posted - 2015/05/09 : 00:06:30
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Originally posted by oxis:
i'd say he was more than fortunate. in terms of popularity, he is definitely up there. but when it comes to quality, eh... i'll just say that his most popular track is a remix of rainbow road from mario kart 64. take the melody out and it is claps and noise sweeps.
are you serious!? it's a completely original song.
way to go on about how you don't think i'm able to write quality songs and you can't even tell the difference between mario kart 64 soundtrack and my song named 'rainbow road'.
i'm aware i was very fortunate getting a release on monstercat. i'll do my best to get more people into the scene.
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Elliott
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Posted - 2015/05/09 : 10:58:26
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Originally posted by nanobii:
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Originally posted by oxis:
i'd say he was more than fortunate. in terms of popularity, he is definitely up there. but when it comes to quality, eh... i'll just say that his most popular track is a remix of rainbow road from mario kart 64. take the melody out and it is claps and noise sweeps.
are you serious!? it's a completely original song.
way to go on about how you don't think i'm able to write quality songs and you can't even tell the difference between mario kart 64 soundtrack and my song named 'rainbow road'.
i'm aware i was very fortunate getting a release on monstercat. i'll do my best to get more people into the scene.
I actually like the track and I don't normally care for that style (especially the whole snare 2nds thing).
Personally, I think it's great that Monstercat released a hardcore track regardless. Sadly it seems like it didn't lead to any real increase in hardcore interest. Based on the YT comments for the track, the idiots couldn't even figure out what happy hardcore actually is.
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oxis
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Posted - 2015/05/09 : 12:35:19
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Originally posted by nanobii:
are you serious!? it's a completely original song.
way to go on about how you don't think i'm able to write quality songs and you can't even tell the difference between mario kart 64 soundtrack and my song named 'rainbow road'.
sounded extremely similar when i listened to it, but i admit that after listening again i might have speculated more than i should have. my apology & i stand corrected, although i maintain the rest of my post (the rainbow road thing was simply an example). i don't actually believe that rainbow road has that great of a melody whether you wrote it or not :p i am not responsible for the trajectory of your career but i personally wish you go on to make greater and more interesting stuff, as i do for every producer
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SPOOX
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Posted - 2015/05/10 : 15:37:08
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I would say during the 90s, he was a lead name, and then of course when he worked under the title "Breeze & Styles"...but after he went solo...that's where I stopped following him. Would I consider him hardcore's most prized assest when you have artists like Al Storm, Scott Brown, Brisk, Dougal, DNA, Stompy, Seduction (and yes, I know some are gone, but they were innovators!), No, I wouldn't.
I agree with you. I stopped listening to Styles choons when he started making shite like Save Me & Flashlight. I HATE male vocals in Hardcore & crap like this is cringeworthy.
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