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bulby_g
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 Posted - 2008/09/18 : 12:42:04
Read somewhere that you loose data...
True/Rollox?
If true should you only adjust with the gains for each individual sound, synth etc?
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Orbit1
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Posted - 2008/09/19 : 01:27:52
doesnt make a difference.
That belief is a remnant of the analogue age.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/09/19 : 10:22:20
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Originally posted by Orbit1:
doesnt make a difference.
That belief is a remnant of the analogue age.
Ok, thanks mate. :) Clears that up. Does this include the master fader too then?
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Ravine
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Posted - 2008/09/20 : 06:38:06
Doesn't really matter.
At clubs they always lock the master fader at around half to stop DJs turning it up too much.
And my upfaders are always on max. Gains are where it's at!
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Jax
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Posted - 2008/09/20 : 10:40:35
quote:
Originally posted by Ravine:
Doesn't really matter.
At clubs they always lock the master fader at around half to stop DJs turning it up too much.
And my upfaders are always on max. Gains are where it's at!
ok lol, you missed the point of the original post too
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Ravine
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Posted - 2008/09/21 : 05:25:26
quote:
Originally posted by Jax:
quote:
Originally posted by Ravine:
Doesn't really matter.
At clubs they always lock the master fader at around half to stop DJs turning it up too much.
And my upfaders are always on max. Gains are where it's at!
ok lol, you missed the point of the original post too
Yeah i'm totally lost.
I just want to post so i can be cool.
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Jax
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Posted - 2008/09/21 : 13:17:19
quote:
Originally posted by Ravine:
quote:
Originally posted by Jax:
quote:
Originally posted by Ravine:
Doesn't really matter.
At clubs they always lock the master fader at around half to stop DJs turning it up too much.
And my upfaders are always on max. Gains are where it's at!
ok lol, you missed the point of the original post too
Yeah i'm totally lost.
I just want to post so i can be cool.
sounds about right 
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/09/22 : 09:17:47
:p Sorry, talking about production. Should have made that a bit clearer!
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Deverse
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Posted - 2008/09/22 : 12:33:02
Tbh I don't touch the faders on synths etc...
Just use the channel faders to do everything.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/09/22 : 14:05:44
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Originally posted by Deverse:
Tbh I don't touch the faders on synths etc...
Just use the channel faders to do everything.
It's the channel faders I was talking about. :)
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Shades
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Posted - 2008/09/22 : 21:15:38
i always use the channel faders & volume control, tbh i never touch the master channel.
only reason for this is i've read to leave the master channel for mastering (for the audio engineer).
you got 2 other ways to set the volume, one on the synth & one on the channel so you shouldn't need to touch the master.
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/09/23 : 15:57:01
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Originally posted by Shades_of_Grey:
i always use the channel faders & volume control, tbh i never touch the master channel.
only reason for this is i've read to leave the master channel for mastering (for the audio engineer).
you got 2 other ways to set the volume, one on the synth & one on the channel so you shouldn't need to touch the master.
This is all true but.. It would be interesting to know as it is 100% easier to just turn down the master fader if your track is clipping than it is to adjust every other channel or sound...
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Future_Shock
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Posted - 2008/09/28 : 10:05:48
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Originally posted by bulby_g:
quote:
Originally posted by Shades_of_Grey:
i always use the channel faders & volume control, tbh i never touch the master channel.
only reason for this is i've read to leave the master channel for mastering (for the audio engineer).
you got 2 other ways to set the volume, one on the synth & one on the channel so you shouldn't need to touch the master.
This is all true but.. It would be interesting to know as it is 100% easier to just turn down the master fader if your track is clipping than it is to adjust every other channel or sound...
There are two reasons why you shouldn't touch the master fader
1. Read up on signal to noise ratio...i could imagine (and this is why i never do it) that lowering the master volume just to be brought back up later would raise the noise floor unnecessarily...
2. I guess its bad practice... you shoudlnt need to do it anyway... i find it hard to believe that after a track or two you still let things get too loud... notice how loud everything is - the kick drum should be your loudest point, and if the track is too loud, lower the volume and take notes.
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bLOODY_dAN
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Posted - 2008/09/29 : 21:25:25
^^^Absolutely False.^^^
Faders are your best friend. Push and Pull those babies till the sound is the way you want it. End of story.
Its humorous to me that people are giving you advice when they have no idea. Thats COUNTERPRODUCTIVE PEOPLE!!! If you don't know, DON'T SAY ANYTHING! LMFAO.
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Orbit1
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Posted - 2008/09/30 : 14:48:58
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Originally posted by bLOODY_dAN:
^^^Absolutely False.^^^
Faders are your best friend. Push and Pull those babies till the sound is the way you want it. End of story.
Its humorous to me that people are giving you advice when they have no idea. Thats COUNTERPRODUCTIVE PEOPLE!!! If you don't know, DON'T SAY ANYTHING! LMFAO.
Dude what are you on about? Andy's spot on the money. I think you're the one that has no idea.
Except that there's typically need to worry about the SNR within a DAW, but hey... ;)
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bulby_g
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Posted - 2008/09/30 : 17:20:23
Hmmm. Think I'll go with Andy and Sam ;p Think I need to start being less lazy when I start a track!
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