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Fritzy
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Posted - 2008/12/02 :  04:48:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Fritzy's homepage  Reply with quote
...I knew that... LMAO (Lol no I didn't) still... it's a thought... XD



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Posted - 2008/12/02 :  11:49:50  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
any of the battle packs as long as they are direct drive will be great for starting out they'll keep your starting prices down, give you everything you need to get started and leave you with some money for vinyl after.
I think some people on here are forgetting that your just getting started with it. - the lower end numarks are not going to feel great, of course thats why they are lower end.


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Edited by - Triquatra on 2008/12/02 11:53:06
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Posted - 2008/12/03 :  02:40:53  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Fritzy's homepage  Reply with quote
Okay, me being 17 and unemployed my parents most likely won't let me get anything over $200... so here was my idea...

http://www.samash.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_DJ%20In%20A%20Box%20V6%20Turntable%20Package_-1_10052_10002_-49965747_cmCategorySA182609

I can even help pitch in since I have a crap load of money still from my B-Day... :D

So what do you guys think, it's not that Battle Pak 4... but $400 will be pushing it for my parents...


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Posted - 2008/12/03 :  02:53:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Reply with quote
belt drive = bad idea

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Posted - 2008/12/03 :  02:55:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Fritzy's homepage  Reply with quote
Enlighten me please... :P
Is that the "Groove Tool" because I saw that and I was like.. "WTF?"
And is the Belt Drive in that package?




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Posted - 2008/12/03 :  03:04:00  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit TypeR's homepage  Reply with quote
using a belt drive turntable will make you ghey.

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Posted - 2008/12/03 :  03:23:52  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Fritzy's homepage  Reply with quote
OKAY OKAY...

I'm a pretty decent noob at this... and this topic isn't exactly about helping me DJ... but... any help would be appreciated; not telling me what not to do. Like... tell me what I should get... why... so finally here's a list I came up with... what do you guys think... what should I change.. HELP ME OUT!!!!

Mixer:
http://www.samash.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_PS121X%2065%20DJ%20Mixer_-1_10052_10002_-49982190_cmCategorySA182835
Turntables: (I'm getting 2 of these)
http://www.samash.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_PT01%20Portable%20Turntable_-1_10052_10002_-49988912_cmCategorySA182907
Headphones:
http://www.samash.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_HF125%20DJ%20Headphones_-1_10052_10002_-49967138_cmCategorySA183091

Please tell me how well this is... Remember I'm shooting for $200... so don't tell me to get a $500 TT or something... XD

TOTAL PRICE: $205... Not bad... XD What do you guys think?


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Posted - 2008/12/03 :  03:26:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
its all to do with what and how the platter is powered (the disc which your vinyl sits on to spin)

belt drive = oversized rubber band that fits all the way around the deck plate and back to a small motor the other side of the turntable (think of a wristwatch powered by a hairscrunchie insted of powerful cogs)

your rubber band snaps - no more spinning for you without waiting for a new one to arrive once you've ordered it from online.
and thats before you even get to the mixing - the torques useless - meaning you slow that platter down with your hand not only will it grind it to a hault - but that also puts a shed load of wear-and tear on the ol rubber band = snappage.
once you've tapped the record to slow it down its gonna take longer than usual to pick back up again...


now direct drive is a strong motor thats fixed right underneath the platter and is driving the platter directly (depending on how the deck is made), no rubber bands or hair scrunchies to go snap.
whilst you pay a little more for the DD turntable, it pays off, because you dont end up throwing them out the window in a fit of rage.

DJing isnt cheap - and at the start whilst you dont have to get the best-of-the-best its still best to spend a little more and get at least direct drives.


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quote:
Originally posted by Fritzy:
OKAY OKAY...

I'm a pretty decent noob at this... and this topic isn't exactly about helping me DJ... but... any help would be appreciated; not telling me what not to do. Like... tell me what I should get... why... so finally here's a list I came up with... what do you guys think... what should I change.. HELP ME OUT!!!!

Mixer:
http://www.samash.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_PS121X%2065%20DJ%20Mixer_-1_10052_10002_-49982190_cmCategorySA182835
Turntables: (I'm getting 2 of these)
http://www.samash.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_PT01%20Portable%20Turntable_-1_10052_10002_-49988912_cmCategorySA182907
Headphones:
http://www.samash.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_HF125%20DJ%20Headphones_-1_10052_10002_-49967138_cmCategorySA183091

Please tell me how well this is... Remember I'm shooting for $200... so don't tell me to get a $500 TT or something... XD

TOTAL PRICE: $205... Not bad... XD What do you guys think?



considering one of my technics sl1200's is 17 years old, and the other one is 19, i would have to honestly tell you that i cannot remember what it is like to play on anything lesser than a technics turntable.

so, for what it's worth, i will tell you what not to do if you choose not to read the entire thread before asking the same questions as the original poster.


buy what you can afford.




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Posted - 2008/12/03 :  03:33:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
well first off - thats a portible turntable.....it doesnt even have a pitch fader..so you wouldnt be able to change the tempo of the tracks your DJin..
thus you wouldnt be able to mix.

if you cant push $200, your not going to find direct drives and should either


1: wait until you can afford them,
or
2: buy the belt drive package you were looking at originally.

if you can find a complete direct drive package on ebay for that price, they are probably broken.


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Edited by - Triquatra on 2008/12/03 03:36:43
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Posted - 2008/12/03 :  03:47:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Fritzy's homepage  Reply with quote
Okay... so what your saying is... don't get the Numark PT01... how about this one...

Apparently this one I have my eye on now... has a " ±10% pitch control" would that qualify was a pitch fader???
http://www.samash.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_PT01USB%20Portable%20VinylArchiving%20USB%20Turntable_-1_10052_10002_-49955947_cmCategorySA182907


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Posted - 2008/12/03 :  03:56:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Triquatra's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by DjTriquatra:

if you cant push $200, your not going to find direct drives and should either

1: wait until you can afford them,
or
2: buy the belt drive package you were looking at originally



thats all your getting from me now.
im shut for the rest of the evening. its 4am here in the UK

goodnight all.


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Edited by - Triquatra on 2008/12/03 03:58:44
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Posted - 2008/12/03 :  05:46:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Miikkii's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Apollo13:
Where can I buy Vinyl?

http://www.numark.com/battlepakv4

And thats the one i've been looking at. good?



That wouldnt do too bad mate, for a beginner its pretty decent. I think as you find out more about the better products out there you'l change your mind about them. My best advice would be to go around and search, dont stick to one have a look at a few and compare them. with the TT's MAKE SURE!!!!!!!! they are direct drive and not belt driven.



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Posted - 2008/12/03 :  06:19:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Fritzy's homepage  Reply with quote
I've been re-reading the topic... do I really need 2 TT's??? because, the one TT I found that wasn't Belt Drive... was $180... and that's practically all my Christmas money...



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quote:
Originally posted by Fritzy:
I've been re-reading the topic... do I really need 2 TT's??? because, the one TT I found that wasn't Belt Drive... was $180... and that's practically all my Christmas money...



Yes, you need 2 :P Otherwise you wouldn't be able to mix tunes together! Pretty vital to be able to do that when you're mixing.

Save up some cash and buy some second hand 1210's off someone. You'll only end up paying for another set of decks a year or two down the road if you don't get them now. You may well only have £200 to spend but the fact of the matter is it's just not enough for some decent, useable equipment.


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