Brainchild Average Member
United Kingdom
193 posts Joined: Sep, 2006
Posted - 2013/10/09 : 22:20:29
quote:Originally posted by Dys7:
quote:Originally posted by latininxtc:
quote:Originally posted by DJ Hellfury:
On one side, it's sad to hear that he takes a break from UKH
Where does it say that he is taking a break from it?
He's leaving UK hardcore. If he comes back, then you can change the time in between as taking a break.
That seems to be how it has worked before - "Im leaving forever" usually means "I'm not going to produce for 3 months or so", and I think he was implying that.
The way I read it was that he's not coming back. He says it's full of negatives and doesn't get the enjoyment out of producing it.
DJ Hellfury Advanced Member
Austria
2,237 posts Joined: Feb, 2007
Posted - 2013/10/09 : 22:27:04
From what i have seen on facebook over the last months is that promoters didnt paid him enough, nothing or tried to make his music bad over the internet (according to his msgs ofc.), he actually made jokes about it and now he is leaving.
Still, even when this is the reason i wouldnt just exclude the possibility of creating hardcore again with a final goodbye; promoters come and go.
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latininxtc Advanced Member
United States
7,307 posts Joined: Feb, 2006
Posted - 2013/10/09 : 22:53:26
quote:Originally posted by DJ Hellfury:
He didnt said it but i prefer "taking a break" from a genre than "a final goodbye" because you cant do that on a whim, even when you have achieved "much" within less time.
By saying "mah, too much negative shiet in the scene at the moment, i leave and wont do hc from now on" you decrease possibilities in your creativity on your own; what if you like to do a hc tune again? "I was bored, so i did this tune, but still dont come back" isnt that professional, specially when you are a rather famous dude.
And yeah, dys guessed right. We even have producers coming back after 2-10 years.
Never say never, specially when you are a producer/artist
Well what you prefer doesn't matter he can do whatever he damn well pleases as long as it's not illegal and not physically hurting anyone.
Plus what's so professional about an industry that has obnoxious twats belching out shit rhymes on stage (only a dig at certain MCs of course not all)? You think a bit too much on the industry relative to their fan base. And trust me no one thinks more or less of Modulate for leaving like this either, if fans did then MC Storm the douchebag would have been run out of UK hardcore for spewing hearsay about Sy.
Honestly though it will definitely look stupid if he ever came back and started producing UK hardcore again, but that's on him to worry about and no one else. That's why I never take these leavings seriously.
Although a few who have left in haste have yet to return, such as DNA.
Captain Triceps Advanced Member
United Kingdom
2,211 posts Joined: Dec, 2011
Posted - 2013/10/09 : 23:36:26
It'd be a shame if he does go and never produce hardcore again. His tunes obviously weren't to everyone's taste, but even the most cynical of us can't deny he's very good at what he does. He was a major influence in taking UK hardcore in it's current direction (whether that was good or bad is another discussion), in fact I doubt he knows himself the difference he helped create. Not so many were making it a few years back, now everyone is (not quite, but you know what I mean). He's obviously got it in him to make several different styles of music too.
Why just knock it on the head completely, when you are getting regular releases on the biggest label in the scene, alongside much (MUCH) longer established and well known artists?
I'm another taking it with little more then a pinch of salt though, he's made a mistake in making it seem so final, as was said never say never in this business. He might not have gained the enduring popularity of, say, Vinylgroover who folk are falling over themselves to hear new HC from all these years later, but I'm sure if he wanted to make a few tracks here and there no one would mind too much. At the very least, stop DJing it and produce at his own leisure.
Hard2Get Advanced Member
United Kingdom
12,837 posts Joined: Jun, 2001
Posted - 2013/10/09 : 23:38:38
quote:Why just knock it on the head completely, when you are getting regular releases on the biggest label in the scene, alongside much (MUCH) longer established and well known artists?
From what i can gather, he realises there is more to making music than being on a big label amongst big names. Some things just aren't worth it.
Vladel Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,525 posts Joined: Feb, 2008
Posted - 2013/10/10 : 06:20:01
Modulate leaving hardcore? I thought he left before clubland not very hardcore ******** dubstep 8 To me he's not produced anything deserving of the term Hardcore since before then and to be honest even before the dubcore fad he was nothing special. My only regret is that he hasn't taken Breeze with him.
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Elipton Advanced Member
United Kingdom
1,268 posts Joined: Apr, 2013
Posted - 2013/10/10 : 06:40:40
quote:Originally posted by Vladel:
Modulate leaving hardcore? I thought he left before clubland not very hardcore ******** dubstep 8 To me he's not produced anything deserving of the term Hardcore since before then and to be honest even before the dubcore fad he was nothing special. My only regret is that he hasn't taken Breeze with him.
Hahaha I was about to post a reply about Breeze. With Modulate gone, Breeze is screwed for making decent Hardcore. His solo efforts are unbearable.
I found this track by Breeze the other week and I can't stop laughing my head off at it. Arguably the worst instrumental, the worst lyrics and the worst sung track in Hardcore history.
Point is, compare that to something Breeze produced with Modulate.
The production quality is on another level. I'm not really a fan of Modulate's tracks, but for a Dubcore lover, the synths and ability he brought to the table were outstanding. That was evident by Darren Styles, Breeze and countless others collaborating with him so frequently.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,241 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2013/10/10 : 06:44:05
quote:I have recently been doing a lot of thinking, And I have come to the conclusion that I have had enough with hardcore. It takes an extreme amount of effort & time to maintain multiple aliases in multiple genres but hardcore only seems to be full of negatives and not enough enjoyment for me any more to want to spend 7 days a week in the studio producing it. let alone taking time away from the Rocket Pimp projects which is what i have wanted to focus on for a while.
I believe this is what Hellfury was on about. It seems to me that peoples dislike for the more drumstepy stuff has gotten to him, while his Rocket Pimp is more for "standard" Hardcore and bouncy stuff.
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latininxtc Advanced Member
United States
7,307 posts Joined: Feb, 2006
Posted - 2013/10/10 : 07:11:44
quote:Originally posted by Elipton:
quote:Originally posted by Vladel:
Modulate leaving hardcore? I thought he left before clubland not very hardcore ******** dubstep 8 To me he's not produced anything deserving of the term Hardcore since before then and to be honest even before the dubcore fad he was nothing special. My only regret is that he hasn't taken Breeze with him.
Hahaha I was about to post a reply about Breeze. With Modulate gone, Breeze is screwed for making decent Hardcore. His solo efforts are unbearable.
I found this track by Breeze the other week and I can't stop laughing my head off at it. Arguably the worst instrumental, the worst lyrics and the worst sung track in Hardcore history.
Point is, compare that to something Breeze produced with Modulate.
The production quality is on another level. I'm not really a fan of Modulate's tracks, but for a Dubcore lover, the synths and ability he brought to the table were outstanding. That was evident by Darren Styles, Breeze and countless others collaborating with him so frequently.
Not exactly a fair comparison considering those tracks are 2 years apart, and the Breeze solo track was that triplets style that thankfully died pretty quickly.
But yes Breeze needs someone else to collaborate with him. I can't think of a track other than Let's Fly that I like from him that was a solo production.
HollowRipper Average Member
United Kingdom
155 posts Joined: Aug, 2008
Posted - 2013/10/10 : 07:57:25
The guy is an amazing producer. Out of the two (petruccio and modulate) he was by far the better half at producing, but his djing left a lot to be desired, where as petruccio always plays good, varied sets, modulate was very dubcore orientated.
He really took hardcore in another direction, even if it was a horrible disgusting direction that everyone hates, he still did it, not many other producers can say that, and that must count for something... musn't it?
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,241 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2013/10/10 : 08:33:27
quote:Originally posted by HollowRipper:
The guy is an amazing producer. Out of the two (petruccio and modulate) he was by far the better half at producing, but his djing left a lot to be desired, where as petruccio always plays good, varied sets, modulate was very dubcore orientated.
He really took hardcore in another direction, even if it was a horrible disgusting direction that everyone hates, he still did it, not many other producers can say that, and that must count for something... musn't it?
DJ DNA supposedly tried, and he quit the same day :P
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DJ Hellfury Advanced Member
Austria
2,237 posts Joined: Feb, 2007
Posted - 2013/10/10 : 08:49:05
quote:Originally posted by latininxtc:
Plus what's so professional about an industry that has obnoxious twats belching out shit rhymes on stage (only a dig at certain MCs of course not all)? You think a bit too much on the industry relative to their fan base. And trust me no one thinks more or less of Modulate for leaving like this either, if fans did then MC Storm the douchebag would have been run out of UK hardcore for spewing hearsay about Sy.
Don't really think most people know about this story or didn't cared about it like we (hhc.com) did and still do. Since there was not enough pressure from the fanbase, Storm wasnt forced to leave, plus he is good friends with everyone from the top and he is still on stage not really because he is a "good" mc (he maybe is a good crowdcontroller, which is why he gets booked). Sy also didn't defend himself against Storm like most people would, so Storm had the stage for his own; almost an one-sided "information source" for most people.
And Sami, Rocket Pimp is his dub/drum/whateverstep alias atm.
I know he used it as hardcore alias at the very beginning, but thats not the case anymore.
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,241 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2013/10/10 : 12:31:44
why would he do that? Modulate sounds more like a dubstep name than Rocket Pimp...
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