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Hardcore Heaven 2 (SHIPPING NOW)

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Vladel
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Posted - 2017/05/24 :  16:09:15  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Vladel's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
Not many, and it's not even the point.

I just wrote a massive bitter diatribe, now deleted. I am bored of overachieving armed with a spork against an army, then being held to account for everyone else failing to meet any depressingly realistic minimum spec. The only way to cast focus is to leave and watch. You may need time lapse cameras.

CDJay



I'm very pleased with the release.


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CDJay
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Posted - 2017/05/24 :  17:07:40  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote


As you can probably guess, yesterday was a "trying" day with yet another cascade of issues out of my hands resulting in an entire day of crushing panic attacks and cold sweats. Still, all resolved, now.

Emotional yo-yo, atm, honestly.

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_Jay_
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Posted - 2017/05/24 :  19:51:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit _Jay_'s homepage  Reply with quote


Hang in there, brother.



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CDJay
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Posted - 2017/05/24 :  20:08:25  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
Come be emotional support on Saturday, Jay

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Samination
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Posted - 2017/05/24 :  20:53:31  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
I wish i could just take an spontaneous trip to the UK again...

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Posted - 2017/05/24 :  22:47:57  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Elliott:



...When I saw that SB would be doing the second mix, I thought "oh great, this is where the supersaw anthems will go". As soon as I saw the tracklist and artists involved, I knew it wasn't going to be like that though. Still, even I was surprised and disappointed by how little SB-type material was on here. Jakka-B, Outforce and Dougal are not names that belong on an SB mix.





I think that's a little harsh. SB has had Dougal (& Gammer) tracks on some of his mixes in the past (eg. a few Bonkers mixes). Plus if a track is good enough to be put on a mix doesn't matter who the artist is imo.



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Samination
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Posted - 2017/05/24 :  23:38:06  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
tbh, if you sign SB to make the mix, then you'd expect to hear a SB mix.

Sure SB probably likes the tracks he played on his set, but is it the usual stuff he mixes?


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Posted - 2017/05/25 :  11:32:36  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Samination:
tbh, if you sign SB to make the mix, then you'd expect to hear a SB mix.

Sure SB probably likes the tracks he played on his set, but is it the usual stuff he mixes?



I'm sticking by my earlier thought, the tracks on the mix are all available in full length when you buy the album, and so it would impact sales for his label significantly.


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CDJay
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Posted - 2017/05/25 :  13:46:10  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
That would make more sense if it wasn't almost guaranteed that you'll make more per track from this album than you will off a digital release

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CDJay
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Posted - 2017/05/25 :  13:51:35  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
I wish i could just take an spontaneous trip to the UK again...



It's officially close enough to the time to qualify as spontaneous!

There's Electrik the following night, and the weather's nice. The pound is weak.

See you there

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Posted - 2017/05/25 :  14:02:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Captain Triceps's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by CDJay:
That would make more sense if it wasn't almost guaranteed that you'll make more per track from this album than you will off a digital release

CDJay


Hadn't thought of it in that respect, I imagine the sales from this album have already far exceeded how many MP3s would sell, although I've no idea how well MP3s do in the current climate anyway.


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Posted - 2017/05/25 :  15:14:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
I can't speak from actual first hand experience, as we decided digital only releases were a waste of time even before the bottom dropped out, but unless you are Darren Styles.... it's unlikely you're doing 1000 units in the near term. Which is what you'd have to do to get the same per track earnings as you do from this purely as a physical release, albeit under the presumption we shift ~1900 units in the next few months, never mind follow up digital.

Which is why I find it flabbergasting how little interest a lot of the established players have in this album or indeed format.

Still, more investment and exposure for the hungry and motivated emerging mid tier.

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Posted - 2017/05/26 :  10:12:29  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
I wish i could just take an spontaneous trip to the UK again...



It's officially close enough to the time to qualify as spontaneous!

There's Electrik the following night, and the weather's nice. The pound is weak.

See you there

CDJay



Yea I saw that one, but getting there is the harder part :P


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Posted - 2017/05/28 :  06:42:48  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elipton's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
I can't speak from actual first hand experience, as we decided digital only releases were a waste of time even before the bottom dropped out, but unless you are Darren Styles.... it's unlikely you're doing 1000 units in the near term. Which is what you'd have to do to get the same per track earnings as you do from this purely as a physical release, albeit under the presumption we shift ~1900 units in the next few months, never mind follow up digital.

Which is why I find it flabbergasting how little interest a lot of the established players have in this album or indeed format.

Still, more investment and exposure for the hungry and motivated emerging mid tier.

CDJay






I'm going to sound like a broken record, but I have to say it again. Hardcore Underground has quickly become the biggest label in Hardcore, but you're kings of a declining kingdom. Therefore, you're doomed to be frustrated. You need to find an old release that's reached the end of it's product lifecycle and form a plan to push it forward for free streaming, get it on YouTube and collaborate with online promoters such as Jordesuvi.

Drum & Bass uploads to UKF channels. Hospital Records uploaded their entire back-cat and built an enormous online footprint with ancient old stock. Virtually every genre is focused with online sales plans that account for streaming. Hardcore Underground should really look at trialling an online plan in order to investigate ways to become sustainable and find new followers.

My opinion, anyway. Tantus labor non sit cassus.


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Posted - 2017/05/29 :  01:17:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elipton's homepage  Reply with quote
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