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Elipton
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 Posted - 2017/05/16 : 17:04:02
Calm yourself, squire.
I bought the album and some other stuff.
I've never really investigated the HU store with much intent to buy, but I had a good browse yesterday and the pricing and variety staggered me. I was really impressed, and I'll certainly return when the bank account has stopped sucking my car's penis (just today my alternator melted woopidy-doo. never buy a unicorn.).
Your store is the best thing in the scene at the moment, so I guess this will set expectation high, and keep the pressure on. Whilst you're achieving a lot with it, don't be disheartened by people who want more. They won't find another source on par.
It's a shame you're not able to find help with the HU projects as it could free you up enough to drive forward projects, but you must make clear and remind yourself that quality of product and of service is paramount as principle, and as example.
*I bet that post has made a few people lose some bets*
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Vladel
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Posted - 2017/05/16 : 17:08:54
My toddlers have just been bouncing to Scott brown - play. My oldest kept yelling "I like this one"
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djDMS
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Posted - 2017/05/16 : 17:15:09
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Originally posted by Elipton:
Calm yourself, squire.
I bought the album and some other stuff.
I've never really investigated the HU store with much intent to buy, but I had a good browse yesterday and the pricing and variety staggered me. I was really impressed, and I'll certainly return when the bank account has stopped sucking my car's penis (just today my alternator melted woopidy-doo. never buy a unicorn.).
Your store is the best thing in the scene at the moment, so I guess this will set expectation high, and keep the pressure on. Whilst you're achieving a lot with it, don't be disheartened by people who want more. They won't find another source on par.
It's a shame you're not able to find help with the HU projects as it could free you up enough to drive forward projects, but you must make clear and remind yourself that quality of product and of service is paramount as principle, and as example.
*I bet that post has made a few people lose some bets*
Ok, where do I report an account being hacked?
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/05/16 : 18:30:57
What? did skarr hack his account and post something nice for once?
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arpz
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Posted - 2017/05/16 : 19:44:56
Nice to see some renewed gusto, CDJay
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Elliott
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Posted - 2017/05/16 : 20:57:02
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Originally posted by GrahamC:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Jesus Christ, that Show me a sign remix is good!
Yeah, worth the album price alone!
Co-sign. Heard it before release (still haven't bought the album but may try) and it convinced me not to give up on F&D completely.
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/05/16 : 21:10:58
So far
F&D on HH2 > F&D on HH1 > SB on HH2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MOB on HH1.
I'm kinda dissapointed on Scott's trackselection on this. Well, mostly because of the missing gabber ofcourse, but in general I thought the tracks felt weaker compared to F&D's CD
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2017/05/16 : 23:10:30
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Originally posted by Samination:
So far
F&D on HH2 > F&D on HH1 > SB on HH2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MOB on HH1.
I'm kinda dissapointed on Scott's trackselection on this. Well, mostly because of the missing gabber ofcourse, but in general I thought the tracks felt weaker compared to F&D's CD
He wouldn't fill it completely with his own tunes or his own labels music, knowing that all the tracks would be available unmixed and possibly not worth releasing.
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trippnface
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Posted - 2017/05/17 : 06:30:32
aight; disc 1 brings some serious heat.
****ing Scoot & CS1 are murdering it. their track on the 24/7 vs comp was also first class. so happy to hear such bliss.
sure ; some hardstye ish sounds/ influences are still on some tracks; but they are used 100% properly with hardcore sounds and drops correctly placed ( atleast on the songs I like) not like disc 2 imo; ( but that is prob by design) . Such a nicer vibe on this disc.
SMD track is sick as well; always super nice to hear a track like that and want alot more for sure :D . disc 1 def brought me my lil break fix i was looking for... always need more hardcore breaks.
DBL track is 100% amazing ; ***** loved it.
chexmixer and stu track was seriously on point as well; keep replaying it. always so dope seing hhc.com members throw down <3.
Fracus & darwin- first love; and their remix of that cube :: hard track.. GOD DAMN. no shit.. just ace. kinda had me gnashing my teeth in sobriety there :o .
these tracks were just my favorite. def loads of other good ones. did not dissapoint! a few tracks i would have switched with my fav tracks on disc 2 ;) ; but beside that; very ; very sexy mix; and some awesome tracks all across the board.
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ConnerIntenzifi
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Posted - 2017/05/17 : 18:50:59
Bought HH2 & DJtools 1-5 recently just downloaded them all tonight.
Only listened to the tracks on the Scott Brown cd but loving most of them especially the newer producers tracks, good to hear tunes that dont sound out of place alongsides Scott's.
Will get down to F&D later
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Elliott
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Posted - 2017/05/17 : 18:52:08
Okay, I'm writing this as I'm listening to the mixes for the first time.
I bolded all my favourites -- tracks I probably would've bought during my TID flick-throughs a few years ago. Overall, unless I'm forgetting something, this is probably the best hardcore compilation I've heard since HU7(?). HH2 is far better than HH1 in that I enjoyed it without lowering my expectations (which I've had to do a lot in recent years). There are some real gems here -- as usual, though, you have to do a bit of digging.
For me: HH2 F&D >>> HH1 MOB = HH1 F&D > HH2 SB
FRACUS & DARWIN MIX:
"Heavyweight"/"Snowflakes": Everyone knows I'm not a big fan of this kind of lead sound and these two tracks have exceptionally similar leads. I don't know if I would've put them together like this because they sound far too alike.
"Lived A Lie": Catchy. Modern hardcore done right. Lovely perc/bsss combo too: good bouncy quality compared to a lot of new style stuff.
"Show Me A Sign": Big, big, big. I heard this one pre-release so I knew there was guaranteed to be at least one slammer on here. Sounds slighty different to/better than the version I heard (might have gone through an extra mastering phase/remastering since then?). Remixing Cube::Hard is not something everyone should attempt but this track wouldn't be out of place on any late '00s hardcore compilation. Real hardcore and a strong show of diversity.
"We Can Dance": Not usually my thing but by the time the second drop kicked in, I was moving around a lot. Nice surprise.
...Disappointing track from Ganar (I used to hold him in higher regard than most fans). Has that kind of identikit modern hardcore lead that's basically replaced the supersaw (so much for diversifying the genre). "Everybody In The House" is blatantly not my kind of thing.
"Run The Night": Probably an absolutely excellent track if you like this kind of music. I enjoyed it a lot, especially the distorted kick switch.
...Some other tracks. I've grown to appreciate those old skool ravey sounds in certain settings (see also: SMD). Too many modern hardcore tracks have replaced the endless saw pads with heavy reverb-delay piano chords. Sometimes it seems like all the lauded "evolution" in our genre boils down to is swapping out old kit parts for new ones. More weak, whiny portamento leads. "Scream & Shout" might grow on me. I like that style in small doses but it inevitably all sounds the same and should be used in the same way that tracks like "Bang Yer Head Off" were in the past: transient DJ tools for occasionally switching things up. In general, I really don't like F&D's current lead sounds and they seem to be reusing the same ones a lot.
"Nas Nas": Didn't want to like it but did. Completely new. I love hearing something completely different to break up the pace in a mix.
"Missing You": I've rated Andy Wilson ever since his "Last Jungle" remix. This was a nice little track.
"Edge Of A Broken Heart": BIG! I wanted to like this because I used to talk to Chex a lot but I didn't even need to try. This is massive. When I saw the collab, I was worried about how it would turn out. Stu Infinity has gone full blown new style over the last few years whereas Chex is more my guy when it comes to sounds. This track is definitely more in Chex's style. I always knew he had a melody in him and would do big things with better production values. If you read this, congrats again, mate. Probably one of the tracks of the album.
"Closer": I just can't get behind this new Technikore. He was one of the last big names producing real hardcore and it's really sad to hear his 2016/17 work. Track's probably okay if you like this kind of music.
"Silhouettes": Large track by modern standards. I'm feeling it. I preferred Outforce circa 2013 (and his previous aliases) but he was one of those that enthusiastically adopted the new style so I can't begrudge him making what he genuinely enjoys.
...Generic ending to the mix.
SCOTT BROWN MIX:
"Light Show": Goddamnit, Technikore. JTS is a bad influence clearly. This one does have a nice little supersaw switch-up though.
...Let's pretend this bit didn't happen.
"Pilgrim": I guess I'm the first to complain when remixes of Scott Brown tracks end up sounding like updates of the originals (which they almost always do for whatever reason) so I should appreciate the effort to bring something different. But I'd argue that Pilgrim dropping into a generic slice of electro is worse. The Pilgrim "choir" lead is supposed to be backed up by a supersaw layer -- that's just the way it is. Nothing-y remix and track.
...When I saw that SB would be doing the second mix, I thought "oh great, this is where the supersaw anthems will go". As soon as I saw the tracklist and artists involved, I knew it wasn't going to be like that though. Still, even I was surprised and disappointed by how little SB-type material was on here. Jakka-B, Outforce and Dougal are not names that belong on an SB mix.
"On My Mind": Exactly what I expected a SB/Hotchkiss collab to sound like. Good news; good track.
"I Want You 2017": Ganar was one of those producers who really developed a signature sound to the point where he could've been accused of being lazy but hearing this, I can't help missing his old "upfront leads with traditional melodies" sound of a few years back. He did some really good tracks in his own style.
"To The Beat": Well, it's SB and one of the few actual SB tracks on offer (given his history with compilations, I'd be surprised if it was his idea to cede so much space to other artists). I hope tunes like this are just part of a phase or an experiment with the album specifically in mind. This one isn't really recognisable as an SB track, which is something he's traditionally always had going for him.
"Hear Me": I haven't kept up with Eufeion as much as I'd like but this isn't what I was expecting. Seeing a collab with Denile (his old labelmate under another alias iirc?) on offer immediately made me think of '00s hardcore.
"Last Symphony": One of the minor positives of modern hardcore is that I'm hearing more 16/32-bar melodies -- not intrinsically good or bad but they make a nice, interesting departure from the tradtionally 4/8-bar riff-centric stuff.
...Did F&D call shotgun on all the good tracks? I wonder what SB really thinks about some of the tracks in his mix.
"Star Strider": One of those collabs that I immediately had high hopes for. No disappointment. The breakbeat section is heavy as well. We need more tracks with full breakbeat breakdowns and proper hybrids.
...Generic. Highlight in here was an unexpected scratch break during the drop of one of the tracks. So, yeah, that's not great. I don't know what's more disappointing: the remixes of SB classics, the SB tracks themselves, the other contributions or that this is what passes for an SB compilation CD these days.
"Need You In My Arms": Needless to say, I approached this one with some trepidation because the original is a '00s classic. In fairness, this is not the hammer-job I was expecting. It's just an inoffensive, needless remix in a modern style. If I didn't love the original, I probably wouldn't like this (but I do so I can tolerate the remix). Kinda proves my earlier point that people remix SB a lot but never seem to bring anything substantially new to the table. Is it because the originals are too good to improve in any compositional sense? Quite possibly.
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"Play": The best SB track on the album. It's not "The Bleep Song" but it's very nice and retains enough traditional sensibility to appeal to me despite a simple lead melody. If SB has to go down the modern route, he at least proves here that he can bring a great new texture to the sounds, reminiscent of the '00s vibes.
"Never Know": Surely one of the album's most promising collabs on paper. Not quite classic material but it was enough to get me hyped.
"The Roof is On Fire": Sadly, neither of these names really fills anyone with excitement anymore. I think it was an important from a marketing perspective to get these kinds of producers on board but the track itself is exactly as turgid as you would expect from a modern Dougal/Riot collab. Big shame considering where they both came from.
"This Is How We Do It": Really lush new breakdown. Lovely stuff. This is one of the more inventive remixes of SB I've heard, which is odd because the drop is basically a powerstomp clone of the original track. I'd prefer it if M-Project had put his talent towards producing an entirely new track in this style. Why go to all the effort of laying down a nice perc/bass combo, perfecting a classic hardcore lead and then just use it to copy someone else's melody verbatim?
Interesting couple of hours. I don't know if I'd listen to either mix in its entirety again. I'd be much more likely to pick the dozen or so gems out and play them individually. The good track to total track ratio is as respectable as I've seen from a hardcore compilation in a long time. There was a time when 10:40 was unacceptable and made a shitty album but these days and considering where I'm coming from, a full quarter of your tracks being keepers actually represents great value for money and a successful project. Bear in mind that my ratio on Ham's album at the moment is 0:10 (I'm still listening to it on repeat in the faint hope that some tracks might be growers..).
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Samination
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Posted - 2017/05/17 : 19:22:04
as I mentioned earlier, I was kinda dissapointed at the tracks from SBs mix. The Pilgrim remix was definitly the lowpoint (the last 2 minute was fine though). But compared to you, I like lightshow for some reason.
I will take a listen to the tracks properly so I can make a better review, but so far the Pilgrim remix and that bloody vocals from the Keep it Mello track are the lowest point, which kinda sets the rest of the tracks fairly high for me :P
If had heard Play somewhere else and without a name, I would have never guessed that it was Scott Brown at all. That's quite change for scott, but its not my favorite track on his set.
I also kinda agree about Scotts set, it feels like he was forced to not-be-scott-brown. But for once it's kinda funky to hear him play freeform-ish tracks on his set (Star Strider, which is kinda a Makina/Freeform clash a-la jD-KiD)
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Posted - 2017/05/17 : 21:30:42
Play is awesome.
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Posted - 2017/05/18 : 01:19:43
After further listening, I've decided "Edge Of A Broken Heart" is indeed my pick of the entire album. Absolutely huge modern supersaw anthem. Putting it next to other tracks in this mix shows up how embarrassingly weak new hardcore leads are. Honestly, the comparison utterly humiliates what passes for hardcore these days. Just listen to any of the other tracks and then put that one on. It comes in like a kick to the face.
When I heard the first few bars, I had my "this was worth every second" moment. Huge smile on my face. Worth the price of the album alone (if CDJay hadn't sent me the digital release already -- what a legend).
And it's obviously fantastic to see Stu Infinity back involved in the kind of music he does so well. He was a low-key king of supersaw hardcore and definitely one of the bigger losses when he started changing his sound.
Brilliant, brilliant track. These moments are the reason I still hang around here with my fingers crossed. All the time there are gems like this to be discovered, I don't think I'll ever fully give it up.
Thanks, CDJay, Chex and Stu Infinity. You lads made my day.
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Posted - 2017/05/18 : 10:35:30
 I guess I'll be the one to go against the grain here:
HH1 F&D > HH2 F&D > HH2 SB > HH1 MOB
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