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Hardcore: Slump or Surge? (new blog)

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CDJay
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Posted - 2016/01/11 :  23:39:11  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
Yeah, but you should see the screening room. Totally tied in with your earlier inquiry . Most suppliers are petrified of exposure, bring the noise.

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arpz
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Posted - 2016/01/11 :  23:42:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit arpz's homepage  Reply with quote
Really exciting stuff! Hows that coming along btw? :)

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CDJay
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Posted - 2016/01/11 :  23:47:56  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
Early days, I need to score an acoustically transparent masking system. Studio needs treatment and room correction. Sadly my iMac fell into the canal so we'll have to get something decent.

CDJay


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arpz
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Posted - 2016/01/11 :  23:56:41  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit arpz's homepage  Reply with quote
I googled it :)

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Cyrax
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Posted - 2016/01/12 :  07:44:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Cyrax's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by trippnface:
quote:
Originally posted by Cyrax:
Claxton will be putting the world to rights every month!



Cyrax when can we buy that epic remix of morning light ;p



You're gonna have to ask M-Project, the deal was he remixes something for me and we'll remix something for him, it's not signed to anywhere in particular but it's up to M-Pro.



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Thumpa
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Posted - 2016/01/12 :  13:16:24  Show profile View artist profile  Send a private message  Visit Thumpa's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
No idea, no one talks to me unless I initiate.

We will shortly have the best UK Hardcore studio, bar none, available with supporting infrastructure. I don't expect the latent heroes to care but I do.

Mass studio tuition, actual engineering, if we want the nu breed to compete the tools must be there.

I've always overtly invested in the genre, but rarely so directly. Come and have a go if you think you're Hardcore enough.

CDJay



can I come and shout MAKE IT MORE TRANCEY?



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Samination
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Posted - 2016/01/12 :  13:40:23  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
"WHERE'S MY HARDCORE?" :p

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CDJay
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Posted - 2016/01/12 :  14:13:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thumpa:
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
No idea, no one talks to me unless I initiate.

We will shortly have the best UK Hardcore studio, bar none, available with supporting infrastructure. I don't expect the latent heroes to care but I do.

Mass studio tuition, actual engineering, if we want the nu breed to compete the tools must be there.

I've always overtly invested in the genre, but rarely so directly. Come and have a go if you think you're Hardcore enough.

CDJay



can I come and shout MAKE IT MORE TRANCEY?





Teas (maid) me, baby!

CDJay



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trippnface
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Posted - 2016/01/12 :  17:52:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit trippnface's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
No idea, no one talks to me unless I initiate.

We will shortly have the best UK Hardcore studio, bar none, available with supporting infrastructure. I don't expect the latent heroes to care but I do.

Mass studio tuition, actual engineering, if we want the nu breed to compete the tools must be there.

I've always overtly invested in the genre, but rarely so directly. Come and have a go if you think you're Hardcore enough.

CDJay



"We will shortly have the best UK Hardcore studio, bar none, available with supporting infrastructure"

*experiencing massive bonercore*


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Warnman
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Posted - 2016/01/12 :  23:23:03  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Warnman's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
"WHERE'S MY HARDCORE?" :p



It has simply vanished just like your virginity back in the old days, when you had met Jay for the very first time in your life!


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Warnman
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Posted - 2016/01/14 :  01:20:44  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Warnman's homepage  Reply with quote
Good day to you, Sir

quote:
Originally posted by Entity:
And now? I think HU may put the odd album out for retail - I have no idea. What happened to the last Clubland? Things have moved on, and hardcore isn't really of any significance for the bigger names to pump out albums like they used to.
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It is NOT. PHYSICALLY. POSSIBLE. to bring in the numbers that you could in the 90's. I'm still dabbling in UK/happy hardcore, because it's a long-standing passion of mine, and I hope it sticks around...but it won't ever be the same.



Yes, back these days the media had completely moved on forward to the next musical fashion, which had to get pushed (my personal opinion is that MTV and VIVA had installed a new American management and the European passion for Techno was not profitable enough to convince the American market back in 1996, so this kind of music had to get executed by the media!)! Nowadays, we (us, Europeans) are getting forced to listen to the EDM garbage, which the American market continuously drops these days and I am completely disgusted by this music! Please don't get me wrong over here: I deeply love what the American underground scene has done for this genre, but the overkill of Techno simply was caused by marketing managers back then! Why the hell hasn't Hip-Hop been commercially executed yet, although it is still successfully present after more than 15 years? No kind of Electronic Music has received such amount of focus and kindly do not try to tell me that Hip-Hop is more valuable in a musical way! To my personal opinion only Dubstep is even worse than Hip-Hop!
A different point is that during these days the Hardcore scene had never considered the developments and simpy was caught by surprise when people had turned their backs to any kind of electronic music, To my opinion the switch of the main focus from Techno to Hip-Hop had been way too much overhasty, but it was logical!

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Originally posted by Entity:
When it comes to making music, yes, there are absolutely AAA top-drawer producers out there. There are also others that can whack a totally shit tune online for sale, and the owners of such sites (not naming names) don't care, because their passion has gone, and will happily take 50% of each sale.



The reason for such kind of beviour is very simple: at the beginning of their careers some producers share a passion for this genre, but after having spent years of suffering and sometimes being regularly getting confrontated with critisism (either fruitable or non-fruitable), they either start to quit or to get tired and move on to produce commercially more successfull music instead, which promises more profit in your own wallet!
Hardcore rather should unite the people more than splitting up the scene beteeen new individually invented styles of Hardcore and every label pushing their own releases more than common choons, which the ravers adore (even though they were produced by a competitor).


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Edited by - Warnman on 2016/01/14 01:26:02
rafferty
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Posted - 2016/01/16 :  04:07:09  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rafferty's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
No idea, no one talks to me unless I initiate.

We will shortly have the best UK Hardcore studio, bar none, available with supporting infrastructure. I don't expect the latent heroes to care but I do.

Mass studio tuition, actual engineering, if we want the nu breed to compete the tools must be there.

I've always overtly invested in the genre, but rarely so directly. Come and have a go if you think you're Hardcore enough.

CDJay



That is a shame. So many of those names under TWR and Future World would add to the variety that Hardcore Underground pushes. Would be a win win for everyone.
You just have to look how successful the partnership with Lethal Theory and Klubbedup has been. (As in CD releases through the HU distribution)


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Edited by - rafferty on 2016/01/16 04:11:19
Connormgs
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Posted - 2016/01/16 :  06:43:26  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Connormgs's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by djDMS:
Especially agree with the point about numbers/popularity (despite what Ajay thinks).

Loads and loads of events plus half decent attendance does NOT mean everything is brilliant again. Better, but nowhere near where it could be. More new ravers needed - and soon!



I wish I could help fix the problem but I live in Arkansas.


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djDMS
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Posted - 2016/01/16 :  10:33:07  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Connormgs:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Especially agree with the point about numbers/popularity (despite what Ajay thinks).

Loads and loads of events plus half decent attendance does NOT mean everything is brilliant again. Better, but nowhere near where it could be. More new ravers needed - and soon!



I wish I could help fix the problem but I live in Arkansas.



If the scene over there is going to take off as predicted, something will come your way soon. Fingers crossed :-)


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Elipton
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Posted - 2016/01/16 :  12:35:20  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elipton's homepage  Reply with quote
Hardcore Underground has enough about it to go it's own way without having to try and tap into the fan-bases of TWR and those artists. They've made it pretty clear that they'll do the bare minimum promotion. HU has established a cult following already, has a group of resident producers, has series of releases and even has it's own events. You should look at alternate ways of building on that.

One potential way would be to talk to a Japanese artist and sign them up for an album and work with their contacts to have it released at a Comiket or similar event. The Japanese Hardcore scene has been reliant on big conventions to sell Hardcore for a few years now. UK and Europe sales would probably do well because getting hands on physical Japanese releases is expensive for us, and even if the project breaks even you will have turned a few heads over there. Might even manage open dialogue with promoters in the process.


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