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Hardcore: Slump or Surge? (new blog)

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Elipton
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Posted - 2016/01/04 :  08:12:04  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Elipton's homepage  Reply with quote
Shall we get back on topic?



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djDMS
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Posted - 2016/01/04 :  09:34:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
Great point about remixes from/in other genres.

Back when i was a youngster, I discovered so much stuff from buying records with 3 or 4 tracks - all in different styles.

I know sales are rubbish now so getting something back for your outlay could be a problem but I think it's a risk worth taking.


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Posted - 2016/01/04 :  15:47:24  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Cyrax's homepage  Reply with quote
I'm impressed after meeting Claxton a while ago I was under the impression he could not read and write.



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Claxton
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Posted - 2016/01/04 :  16:18:05  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Claxton's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Cyrax:
I'm impressed after meeting Claxton a while ago I was under the impression he could not read and write.



I'm impressed! After meeting Claxton a while ago, I was under the impression that he could not read or write.

I fixed that for you, mate.


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CDJay
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Posted - 2016/01/04 :  16:26:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit CDJay's homepage  Reply with quote
*senses love in the air*

CDJay


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Gammer Nazi

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quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
*senses love in the air*

CDJay




Couldn't be any more obvious...


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quote:
Originally posted by Samination:
Gammer Nazi


I love you.


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quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
*senses love in the air*

CDJay



This project is going to be so Kawaii.


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rafferty
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Posted - 2016/01/04 :  22:12:43  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rafferty's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by rafferty:
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Originally posted by Claxton:
So I decided to write a blog very much off the back of Gammer's. It's my first attempt at anything like this and non of my thoughts are particularly groundbreaking. Anyway, see what you think!

https://happyhardcoreblog.wordpress.com/2016/01/01/hardcore-slump-or-surge/

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Sadly, this is still very much the case. Despite Gammer & Darren remixing Justin Bieber, Dougal & Gammer getting the opportunity to play at Warehouse Project and said artists receiving DJ support from big names in dance music, I question whether the music is actually benefiting from this...




I agree with some of your blog but not all of it.

MCs, well they used to be more about flowing with the dj and the crowd. MC Ribbs at Club Kinetic is more the MCing I prefer. The rap here and there and interact with the crowd and the dj but without overtaking completely!!
They still seem to do it like this in the Hardstyle scene.
But for some reason a lot of the new MCs in the UK don't want to be a host but prefer to over talk with too much rapping at a million miles an hour.
MC Storm started this over talking and seems every MC has been influenced by him.

As for music. I think Gammer is right in many things he said with exposure of Hardcore to new people.

But I really disagree massively with what you said about Hardcore is not Hardcore if it has EDM influences. Hardcore took on all Trance influences in 2000 so does that make it actually not real Hardcore because it sounds like Trance on speed?

The only true original UK Happy Hardcore sound is that of the early Bonkers and Hardcore Heavens from the 90s.

The music has to evolve. If it stays the same it will be left in the past like Eurodance.
I'll happily admit I only buy Hardcore artists that incorporate the newer EDM sounds. Labels like TWR, Future World, Klubbed Up and some of the newer sounding stuff on Hardcore Underground, Lethal Theory and Evolution.
I always flick a track very quickly if it sounds like a carbon copy from the 2000s Raver Baby era.

Hardcore is now more versatile than ever which is a good thing. If it all went like the 2000s Trance sound again with zero variety. I would stop buying for sure.




You've completely misinterpreted me there. No where did I say the word influenced. I said an EDM track at 170bpm.

Taking influences is fine. In fact it's a must if hardcore is to stay current and fashionable. But hardcore also needs its own sound. There's no point in just copying another genre identically and making it at 170bpm.

There's a balance to be had here and certain artists put it off well.

All new music that I play has to be fresh and modern with a decent standard of production unless it's musically exceptional and too good to be missed.

It's absolutely crucial that music evolves.

So in fact, you agree with me more than you think, you've just misinterpreted my words.




Ah ok maybe I did:)

I just look at how good Stonebank is. He makes really House edged Hardcore and he is absoloutley smashing it. Very much the type of music I look out for.

4 million hits on youtube is an increadible effort for his his track Stronger.. I am very surprised labels like Underground or Future World have not tried to sign him.


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AoS_Lorenzo
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Posted - 2016/01/04 :  22:15:58  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit AoS_Lorenzo's homepage  Reply with quote
Stonebank=Rocket Pimp/Modulate. He was signed to Futureworld



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djDMS
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Posted - 2016/01/04 :  22:16:51  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit djDMS's homepage  Reply with quote
Wasn't Modulate on FW anyway?

Must be a reason he hasn't done anything with them under this guise


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AoS_Lorenzo
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Posted - 2016/01/04 :  22:18:21  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit AoS_Lorenzo's homepage  Reply with quote
https://ukf.com/words/stonebank-he-never-lost-his-hardcore/14560
yeah.




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Claxton
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Posted - 2016/01/04 :  22:23:46  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Claxton's homepage  Reply with quote
Insanely talented producer. Used to love his early hardcore stuff when he went by the name of Rocket Pimp.

I remember listening to his stuff before he's even had his first release when he posted on USH and thinking, 'this guy's got something'.

Love 'Keep You Safe' as Rocket Pimp and 'Symphonix' as Modulate.


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Edited by - Claxton on 2016/01/04 22:25:17
rafferty
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Posted - 2016/01/04 :  22:36:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rafferty's homepage  Reply with quote
Yeah hopefully there is alot more to be realised from him in 2016. Never knew he was originally Rocket Pimp. Guess there is no chance of him being on FW if they parted ways. Maybe TWR will sign a few of his tracks.

House music producers always seem to do well at making Hardcore. Recon is another producer that does both although he has been quiet lately with rave tracks.


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Edited by - rafferty on 2016/01/04 22:40:53



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